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Re: BlizzardPPC memory not working anymore
« Reply #14 from previous page: January 08, 2005, 05:17:33 PM »
All is working now, the flash update has solved my issues.
Thanks.
could not wait the new memory :-)
 

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Re: BlizzardPPC memory not working anymore
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2005, 10:17:25 AM »
So you did flash your PPC card ??? Cool !! Better that than having to replace parts on the card itself, and also a lot cheaper than having the card repaired at a repairshop  :lol:

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Re: BlizzardPPC memory not working anymore
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2005, 02:06:51 PM »
Have received 2 128 mb double sided memory modules from Amigakit, none of them are working :-(
I've been very carefull when installing them, with my antistatic wirst thing.
My original 64mb module works perfectly,
but when I try the amigakit ones, the Amiga do not even boot.
Weird, I hope they will replace them.


 

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Re: BlizzardPPC memory not working anymore
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2005, 02:36:38 PM »
Try to change the RAM settings, in the Flash menu (ie with or without precharge, waistates, 60-70 ns and so).

 

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Re: BlizzardPPC memory not working anymore
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2005, 02:42:33 PM »
I'd like to know how ESD actually damages a PCB and whether it can be
reversed. If microchips are solid material with contacts how can
static electricity damage a chip that would lose electrical data
anyway on power-down!?

I ask this because I bought a 64Mb FPM from the US and it didn't work
at first (last 4Mb crashed the machine).

On pulling it out and leaving it for a few days and re-inserting it I
get all 64Mb and it's worked flawless ever since.

Can you earth any electrical charge in a device and repair it or did I
just get lucky by scratching off some oxidised deposits on the SIMM
contacts?

Anyway, if you have trouble use a fibreglass pen to scratch your SIMM
contacts shiny before re-flashing the board.

I have a 1260 not a PowerPC and my memory came good without too much
fiddling!

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Re: BlizzardPPC memory not working anymore
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2005, 06:33:34 PM »
> I'd like to know how ESD actually damages a PCB and whether it can be
>reversed. If microchips are solid material with contacts how can
>static electricity damage a chip that would lose electrical data
>anyway on power-down!?

ESD doesn't damage the PCB, it damages the chips. It's nto repairable without replacing the defective chip.

Basically, it fries transistors. Transistors are made from a few layers of different things sandwiched together. On the bottom is :diffusion" area, which isn't great at conducting. The two ends of this area are connected to wiring, one is the input, one is the output. If left like this, the two ends would electrically not be connected to each other.

On top of this diffusion layer is a thin layer of silicon oxide. On top of that is the transistor gate made out of polysilicon.

When the poly gate is charged, an electical field gets pushed down into the diffusion layer below, and this field makes the diffusion able to conduct electricity, turning the transistor "on". If you discharge the poly gate, the electrical field goes away and the diffusion below again is unable to conduct electricity, turnign the transistor "off".

Now, I haven't said much about that middle silicon oxide layer. Really all it does is insulate the poly gate from the diffusion below it. If these twothings touch, they cause a short and things won't work anymore. ESD problems apply so much voltage between the gate and the diffusion that the thin silicon oxide can no longer withstand the pressure, and it breaks down, allowing the poly and diffusion to short together. Bam, your chip is fried and needs replaced.

I hope we've all enjoyed this afternoon's CMOS lesson. Be prepared for a quiz next Thursday. :) :)

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Re: BlizzardPPC memory not working anymore
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2005, 10:27:39 PM »
yes u are correct the BLIZZPPC can not take some double sided simms,but i have found a way around this by getting a nail clipper & cutting the legs just above the soldering on the BLIZZPPC CPU simms side & useing a small file to get to the inner legs...


my BLIZZPPC now can take any simm module...


both my simms are fitted with akasa heatsink..


overclocked BLIZZPPC..

also disabled regulater so processors can be powered directly from powersupply 3.3v... bvision also powered directly...

useing antec truecontroll powersupply..



DO NOT TRY & COPY MY MOD.. VERY DANGEROUS..
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power is nothing without control
 

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Re: BlizzardPPC memory not working anymore
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2005, 08:58:33 PM »
it works now, thanks for your help
 

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Re: BlizzardPPC memory not working anymore
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2005, 10:31:58 PM »
Still donĀ“t know how you fixed it. Can you tell about it please ??? Have got a PPC 233/060 here too and I was also thinking about upgrading it with 256 Mb instead of 64 Mb and I would like to have some info first before I start losing more hair when I get the same problems that you had  :lol:

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Re: BlizzardPPC memory not working anymore
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2005, 10:50:51 PM »
@henribarbu

The SIMMs were fully tested before despatch.  We generally put all memory through a Pre-Delivery Inspection which tests the integrity of the memory.  We don't want memory to go all the way to Belgium untested and turn out to be faulty.  In this case the memory passed the PDI- so you know they are 100% OK.

The 2x SIMMs were tested in a Blizzard '040/210Mhz- ensure that you change the wait states to ON and precharge to ON in the Early Menu on the BlizzardPPC.  Then test the SIMMs, one-by-one in your BlizzardPPC.  Also test them one-by-one in each slot separately.

You should find that the memory then works OK.  Any queries, please contact us.  
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