Hacking the C64DTV, it's not your average retro DTV device!

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adolescent wrote:

mdma wrote:

We invented TV so what we say goes! :-P ;-)

You did?  I thought you were from the UK not the US.

John Logie Baird

adolescent wrote:

mdma wrote:

We invented TV so what we say goes! :-P ;-)

You did?  I thought you were from the UK not the US.

What do they teach you in school over there?  :roll:

Next you'll be telling us the yanks invented the train too!

PMC wrote:
It's a brilliant piece of kit alright, I just hope that Jeri Ellison will see the light and design something Amiga inspired.  

Here's hoping.

Do Gateway still own all the Amiga patents?

If so, then maybe Tulip could licence these patents to produce a "Commodore AmigaDTV".  No need for any involvment of Amiga Inc/KMOS then I would assume.

Please correct me if i'm wrong.

[adolescent]

mdma wrote:

adolescent wrote:

mdma wrote:

We invented TV so what we say goes! :-P ;-)

You did?  I thought you were from the UK not the US.

What do they teach you in school over there?  :roll:

Next you'll be telling us the yanks invented the train too!

What do they teach you over there?  Obviously what was invented by Farnsworth was more like the modern television than Baird's mechanical set.

adolescent wrote:

mdma wrote:

adolescent wrote:

mdma wrote:

We invented TV so what we say goes! :-P ;-)

You did?  I thought you were from the UK not the US.

What do they teach you in school over there?  :roll:

Next you'll be telling us the yanks invented the train too!

What do they teach you over there?

History.

[weirdami]

Next you'll be telling us the yanks invented the train too!

It's funny, the things you learn from people on the Internet. Years ago, some New Zealand dude was flaming about how NZ invented flight and splitting atoms. Every country has its misinformed patriots (kooks), that's for sure.

I don't think the US invented the train, no, but the US did invent television. The dude (an American) was even on "What's My Line?" (the USA version :-P) way back in the 50's. Apparently he came up with the idea while hoeing rows on his farm.

weirdami wrote:

Next you'll be telling us the yanks invented the train too!

It's funny, the things you learn from people on the Internet. Years ago, some New Zealand dude was flaming about how NZ invented flight and splitting atoms. Every country has its misinformed patriots (kooks), that's for sure.

I don't think the US invented the train, no, but the US did invent television. The dude (an American) was even on "What's My Line?" (the USA version :-P) way back in the 50's. Apparently he came up with the idea while hoeing rows on his farm.

Seriously, John Logie Baird invented the television in 1926 in Soho, London.

John Logie Baird

[adolescent]

mdma wrote:

Seriously, John Logie Baird invented the television in 1926 in Soho, London.

John Logie Baird

And, like I said his "television" was nothing like the modern TV.  And, there were other mechanical devices like his long before.  If you choose to ignore this fact and the rest of history then it's up to you.  But Baird did not invent the television.
 

adolescent wrote:

mdma wrote:

Seriously, John Logie Baird invented the television in 1926 in Soho, London.

John Logie Baird

And, like I said his "television" was nothing like the modern TV.  And, there were other mechanical devices like his long before.  If you choose to ignore this fact and the rest of history then it's up to you.  But Baird did not invent the television.
 

And George Stephensons first train is absolutely nothing like the Japanese Bullet Train, but he still built the first train.

 :roll:

[that_punk_guy]

adolescent wrote:

And, like I said his "television" was nothing like the modern TV.  And, there were other mechanical devices like his long before.  If you choose to ignore this fact and the rest of history then it's up to you.  But Baird did not invent the television.
 

Uhhh, I hate to jump on the patrio-wagon here but Baird was throwing television signals across the atlantic years before Farnsworth demonstrated his tube. There is no method implied in the term "television" anyway.

[Waccoon]

Uhhh, I hate to jump on the patrio-wagon here but Baird was throwing television signals across the atlantic years before Farnsworth demonstrated his tube

I thought we were talking about the people who first developed broadcasting standards.  You can't really narrow down such a big invention as TV to just one person, anyway.

Any speculation as to whether the "CPU" in this C64 device is an embedded core from a modern CPU like a MIPS, or a totally custom device?  I would think it's too much trouble to make a new chip from the C64 blueprints, especially of the SID.  We *did* just have a few threads on why it would be practically impossible to remanufacture the OCS / AGA chipsets.

OT:  Oh yeah, I work for the Post Office, now, and I could not *believe* how many QVC boxes we had to ship this holiday season.  I mean, we had six-foot-tall boxes loaded with 'em.  

If you live in New England, they went through my P.O. Annex, and I probably sorted them.  Merry Christmas.  :-D

[MskoDestny]

Any speculation as to whether the "CPU" in this C64 device is an embedded core from a modern CPU like a MIPS, or a totally custom device?  I would think it's too much trouble to make a new chip from the C64 blueprints, especially of the SID.  We *did* just have a few threads on why it would be practically impossible to remanufacture the OCS / AGA chipsets.

The prototypes appear to be little more than an FPGA and a ROM chip so presumably it's completely custom.

[weirdami]

...George Stephensons first train is absolutely nothing like the Japanese Bullet Train, but he still built the first train.

Wheels on tracks is the same thing. I think what adolescent was getting at was more along the lines of abacus vs. Amiga.