Hacking the C64DTV, it's not your average retro DTV device!

[bloodline]

Maybe I've missed the point, but how is this cooler than UAE on a PocketPC?

DMC12 wrote:
Just a thought for all of you out there using PAL...

Emerson makes a NTSC to PAL converter for $40.00 Model # EVC-1500.  Look around...I see a few that are even cheaper than that...

What people may not know, is that most TV's and VCR's built in the last 5 years or so are capable of recieving both NTSC and PAL signals. Oh, and that french one that's exactly the same as PAL but has a different name coz it's French! ;-) SECAM I beleive.

bloodline wrote:
Maybe I've missed the point, but how is this cooler than UAE on a PocketPC?

UAE is an emulator.  This is real hackable hardware.

Much more geekier! :-)

[Dan]

mdma wrote:
What people may not know, is that most TV's and VCR's built in the last 5 years or so are capable of recieving both NTSC and PAL signals. Oh, and that french one that's exactly the same as PAL but has a different name coz it's French! ;-) SECAM I beleive.

SECAM was also used in the eastblock, it got diffrent a colorsystem on a real PAL you only get black and white:-P
But why does UK television recieve the sound on a diffrent subcarrier frequency than all other european PAL systems, whos being difficult? :-P

No wonder the japanese got feed up and did  multiformat-TVs.

[bloodline]

mdma wrote:

bloodline wrote:
Maybe I've missed the point, but how is this cooler than UAE on a PocketPC?

UAE is an emulator.  This is real hackable hardware.

Much more geekier! :-)

Hmmmm.... Until I see some proper Tecnical documentation, this C64DTV is nothing more than an Emuator running on a single chip computer :-D

[bloodline]

Dan wrote:

mdma wrote:
What people may not know, is that most TV's and VCR's built in the last 5 years or so are capable of recieving both NTSC and PAL signals. Oh, and that french one that's exactly the same as PAL but has a different name coz it's French! ;-) SECAM I beleive.

SECAM was also used in the eastblock, it got diffrent a colorsystem on a real PAL you only get black and white:-P
But why does UK television recieve the sound on a diffrent subcarrier frequency than all other european PAL systems, whos being difficult? :-P

No wonder the japanese got feed up and did  multiformat-TVs.

DIGITAL!!!!!

[redrumloa]

bloodline wrote:
Hmmmm.... Until I see some proper Tecnical documentation, this C64DTV is nothing more than an Emuator running on a single chip computer :-D

Well however it's setup you CAN hack the hardware. Can you hack a pocket PC and hook it up to a real Amiga disk drive? A keyboard?

The hardware was designed by a well known person in the C= community, the same designer of the C=1. Alot of thought was given to tinkers/hacking. There's even hidden easter eggs in it.

[bloodline]

redrumloa wrote:

bloodline wrote:
Hmmmm.... Until I see some proper Tecnical documentation, this C64DTV is nothing more than an Emuator running on a single chip computer :-D

Well however it's setup you CAN hack the hardware. Can you hack a pocket PC and hook it up to a real Amiga disk drive? A keyboard?

The hardware was designed by a well known person in the C= community, the same designer of the C=1. Alot of thought was given to tinkers/hacking. There's even hidden easter eggs in it.

Yeah respect to Jeri :-)

With regards to hooking a PPC to a rael Amiga DD or Kbd... I'm sure I could if I had the time :-D

[Dan]

bloodline wrote:
With regards to hooking a PPC to a rael Amiga DD or Kbd... I'm sure I could if I had the time :-D

Just get one with USB-host. :-) The real problem is getting it to boot something else than WinCE :destroy:

C64DTV rocks, imagine if there was a A500DTV!

[adolescent]

bloodline wrote:
Hmmmm.... Until I see some proper Tecnical documentation, this C64DTV is nothing more than an Emuator running on a single chip computer :-D

It's not an emulator running on a single chip computer. It's just a single chip computer.  And, while I agree that UAE on the PocketPC is cool, as is VICE, etc.  The entry price for the C64DTV is in line with buying a used C64 ($30) and it offers some new features (256 colors, DMA, PC keyboard, etc.) that make it interesting to the C64 scene.  

 

Dan wrote:

mdma wrote:
What people may not know, is that most TV's and VCR's built in the last 5 years or so are capable of recieving both NTSC and PAL signals. Oh, and that french one that's exactly the same as PAL but has a different name coz it's French! ;-) SECAM I beleive.

SECAM was also used in the eastblock, it got diffrent a colorsystem on a real PAL you only get black and white:-P
But why does UK television recieve the sound on a diffrent subcarrier frequency than all other european PAL systems, whos being difficult? :-P

No wonder the japanese got feed up and did  multiformat-TVs.

We invented TV so what we say goes! :-P ;-)

[adolescent]

mdma wrote:

We invented TV so what we say goes! :-P ;-)

You did?  I thought you were from the UK not the US.

[weirdami]

US dudes invented television. UKers invented "telly".  :lol:

[weirdami]

Alot of thought was given to tinkers/hacking.

Jeri has pics on her site of her prototype and it's got all sorts of extra bits that Tulip didn't put on, I guess for reasons of cost. There's a place (solder hole deals) for a second joystick port on the final product, just not the connector itself.

Seems to me like a dream job for someone like Jeri, being ASKED to make this device, so she used her knowledge to make something cool and also put in some cool stuff for hackers and retro-geeks...all of who(m) she probably knows personally. :-)

[PMC]

It's a brilliant piece of kit alright, I just hope that Jeri Ellison will see the light and design something Amiga inspired.  

Here's hoping.

[bloodline]

adolescent wrote:

mdma wrote:

We invented TV so what we say goes! :-P ;-)

You did?  I thought you were from the UK not the US.

John Logie Baird