Interview with Ben Hermans revealing current status of AOS4

[z5]

Users want to see products instead of just way to much talking and making announcements

So one day people are bitching because no status reports is given, and when one is given, there is way to much talking. Oh well...

You have to love those announcements though, i might go and order a Amijoe card and a Boxer board and must get one of those Amiga 5000 machines like those announcements claimed in the past.

As Rogue pointed out, you can blame Hyperion for the last year, but NOT for any boxer, amijoe, Gateway, Viscorp, Escom and any other announcement for that matter. It's simple really: they didn't have ANYTHING to do with it.

[Desler]

Darth_X is just an jealous MorphOS fan ... jealous that he made the wrong choice

I am so NOT a jealousd MorphOS fan

Looks like two schoolgirls bickering. In the next two posts well see Henning go "Gucci mirror" Showing Darthx the palm of his hand and Darthx go " Whaaet eveer"   :-D
Sorry Henning Sorry Darth. This one was just too obvious   :-)

[Rogue]

Paul_Gadd wrote:
Hyperion guys you can talk the talk but can you walk the walk?

I should be honored, especially because this was posted by a man of action and not of words...

Users want to see products instead of just way to much talking and making announcements,

You have to love those announcements though, i might go and order a Amijoe card and a Boxer board and must get one of those Amiga 5000 machines like those announcements claimed in the past.

Contrary to those mentions above, Hyperion is know to have actually delivered products, like Heretic II, Shogo, Freespace, Quake II, Mac stuff. Thomas and me have done Warp3D, among other things.

So yes, I can. Can you?

[hnl_dk]

Darth_X wrote:

@hnl_dk

I am so NOT a jealousd MorphOS fan. Sure, I have an interest in Pegasos & MorphOS. I have an interest in all kinds of new technology.

And Pegasos & MorphOS are VERY exciting.. a new computer platform & OS!

You assume that I have no interest in AmigaOS4, but that's not true. You don't know me.

When AmigaOS4 becomes functional and working, I hope to see it up and running at a tradeshow such as Cebit.

Sorry for calling you an MorphOS fan ... I'm just tired of all those (including You) people attacking every great news about Amiga, just to attack it!!!

[Warface]

Sorry for calling you an MorphOS fan ... I'm just tired of all those (including You) people attacking every great news about Amiga, just to attack it!!!

I'm just tired of the same old, same old. Since boring years... Express skepticism, you are enemy. Regardless that it turns out you were right, or you were wrong. I'm glad to see so many with the faith, and sad to see so many with fanatic hate. I have little faith left.

Guess what? "Oh, it's late, but it's a good thing, it gives us more features, it will be better." This mantra goes on since years.

Fanatics worship Haage, then turn away and declare them public enemy. I say most of us (or better I say, you) are simply and willingly blind.

Having said that, I have to express that I take it for granted that OS4 will be released and prevail. I just got fed up. Tired of lies and the officially supported hatred towards those questioning things, expressing criticism. Honest interviews like this are needed.

I was glad that it all came to light, and I do respect Hyperion for telling the truth. I promise you, I will buy OS4 for this action for my BlizzPPC when it will be available. Yet I shake my head seeing ppl trying to turn it into actually "good news". A situation almost identical to what was 4 months ago... I tell you what. There may be so called FUDders (very misleading and erroneus expression), who try to make everything look bad. But there are just as much, if not even more blindly optimistics, worshipping the slightest news item into great leaps forward.

I'm a bit relieved now. For those hating fudders, check back threads from a few months before - most FUDders were right... AmigaOS4 in november, december, january, february, now march, april... This blindness and hatred towards those telling the opposite is pretty tiring. Honest reports worth much more than empty hype...

Sorry for being so disillusioned, what I'd like to express that I'd like to see reports like that in the future. Less hype, less lies, frank and open reports. No one will die hopefully if a few months of delay occures, no one will live longer if it comes a few months earlier than expected.

That's what I wanted to tell... (pretty confusing and probably bitter, but hey, I'm really sorry for that) It's just me.

[magnetic]

 Well Guys
  This is a very complicated situation. I have been "lurking" on Amiga.org, ANN, MooBunny and all kinds of other discussion areas.  Everyone is taking sides... Very few people actually have SCOPE on the situation.  HYPERION is doing the BEST THEY CAN considering the resources ( which a bulk of the Ben Hermans interview is about) AINC has no money and is an extremely small company.  I have not been a big fan of their actions as of late like most Amigans.  The silence, the promises, etc.... As an exhibitor at most major Amiga shows the past 5 years I have come to know mosf of these people. Bill and Fleecy are actually really down to earth aproachable and likable people..  I've spoken via Live broadcasts with Hyperion and those guys are VERY COOL, FUNNY, and obviously Talented. They have single handeldy done more for the Amiga than most people outside of the original people like D.Haynie, Havermost, Petro, Jay M., RJ, and others..
  Give them a  break! They arent making ANYTHING on OS4 YET its probably COsting them money to do it!  As you can see from the interview the "Petunia" guy has had alot going on which helps explain the problem with 68k emu intergration. If Hyperion had funding I would be typing this on my A4000T with Cyberstorm PPC and os4.0!  They have to pay bills like the rest of us...
  As far as MORPH OS and GENESI... Hey they are doing good things! BUT THEY HAVE FUNDING!  Thats why things are happening. I dont know Bill Buck but he seems to have a head on his shoulders and a general good honest person judging from his posts. Also, the team they have from PHASE 5 who as far as I'm concerned - if it wasnt for them we wouldnt even be having this conversation!  PEGASOS is Cool so is OS 4, its amazing this OS is still in exsistance. BE OS had tons of money poured into over the years and look where it is, in the can.. These people like Hyperion, A inc, former Phase 5, GENESI, and others are the reason Amiga is still competitve and a great platform. I'm writing this on a Titanium IBOOK but perfer my PPC 4000T!
 Keep up the work guys.

[Hammer]

Darth_X wrote:
So far, Hyperion have NOT proved that AmigaOS4 is in alpha and actually boots up to workbench. Ben Hermans posting to a message board is not proof.

They may have a different alpha and beta regime compared to the other camp.

It doesn't matter to me if OS4 is finished, or shipping, or even completely bug-free, or even crashes occasional.. All that I will accept.

Their level of completeness may be different to your view.

[Warface]

interview the "Petunia" guy has had alot going on which helps explain the problem with 68k emu intergration

I don't know about such problems of Rachy, the "Petunia guy". I suppose Ben was referring to the guy who has to integrate it to OS4, not the author of Petunia.

[Argo]

Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have been developed purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God. The argument goes something like this:
"I refuse to prove that I exist," says , "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed at the next zebra crossing.
Most leading theologians claim that this argument is a load of dingo's kidneys, but that didn't stop Oolon Colluphid making a small fortune when he used it as the central theme of his best-selling book, 'Well That About Wraps It Up for God.'
Meanwhile, the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.

[Darth_X]

@Desler

LOL!

  :pint:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:

[Darth_X]

@Paul_Gadd

 

You have to love those announcements though, i might go and order a Amijoe card and a Boxer board and must get one of those Amiga 5000 machines like those announcements claimed in the past.

BOXER is selling here.. http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/boxer/

 :-D