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Validating a hard disk
« on: December 15, 2004, 02:33:29 PM »
_Ok..now i really messed up things..
By mistake i deleted a whole partition, and used DiskSalv to unformat the partition.
It recovered EVERYTHING and also more stuff!
Thing is, the partition got 0 blocks free, and i get a read/write error randomly telling me something about allocated space.
I tried to copy and/or delete something to free some space, but i cant, and it keeps telling me the partition is not validating..
How can i solve this??

Thanks in advance

Sebastian
BTW, im using OS 3.1 if that info is important...
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Re: Validating a hard disk
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2004, 02:34:27 PM »
After copying any data you need saved, reformat the buggered partition.

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Re: Validating a hard disk
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2004, 03:10:24 PM »
@Odin

The buggered partition was like 1 gig...it was full of Amiga stuff i collected since 1998...
After copying everything into another partition, i see i only got 200 megas...and a lot of drawers are empty..
So where are the other 800 megas? Lost???
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Re: Validating a hard disk
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2004, 03:11:36 PM »
Most likely, you could however try the 'salvage' option of Disksalv.

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Re: Validating a hard disk
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2004, 10:10:08 PM »
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The buggered partition was like 1 gig...it was full of Amiga stuff i collected since 1998...
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Re: Validating a hard disk
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2004, 10:42:38 PM »
I use Dave Haynie's DiskSalv V2 (rev.11.32) 1991-1994.

It's not totally flawless and the problem you have occurred with me a
lot.

I found the biggest problem I had was formatting my drive with
HDToolBox and then trying to alter the SCSI Synch/Reselection bits
with Phase5's SCSIconfig tool.

They had different standards for RDB saving and I would often get
errors like "Error validating drive on block 998989 - out of range"
and stuff like that. In the end I decided to partition and format the
drive solely with Phase5's prep software (even though it's not as nice
to use and not as sophisticated).

I advise you to make notes of your start and end blocks for each
partition, as well as their sizes etc. in HDToolBox so that in the
event you mess up the RDB (Rigid Disk Block) then you can recreate the
partitions and salvage.

In your situation I'd reccomend you get a totally new hard disk as
a swap drive, then copy everything over and reformat the original disk
(making sure to use only ONE prepping program).

You'd be "putting all your eggs in one basket" if you tried to back up
and re-partition a drive with data on.
 

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Re: Validating a hard disk
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2004, 03:45:29 PM »
@Hyperspeed
Yeah, the same happened here....
I will try phase 5 scsi config tools..
HDToolbox and/or HDINST ar not good to me...

I have used same Disksalv as you did...
I recovered 90% of the drive. I recovered EVERYTHING but a DRAWER that i need desperately....in that drawer i had EVERYTHING, all my DirOpus configs, all the mountlists...everything...

Strange that i couldnt salvage THAT drawer....

I used to have a backup of that drawer on another hard disk..but (as you may imagine..) that hard disk got broken YESTERDAY

Yeah i know, i´d better lough...hey im still alive!!

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Re: Validating a hard disk
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2004, 10:33:17 PM »
I've found that the areas of the disk that are written to the
most are the bits you'll lose.

I would avoid using ReOrg 3.11 if possible as it used to work on IDE
but with my SCSI setup it became very dangerous for some reason.

Best to keep ReOrg for curiosity as opposed to actually defragging.

On the subject though, doesn't AmigaOS3.9 have an inbuilt defragger
like Windows? Also, I asked on another thread if the Amiga had a
disk-surface scanner like the MS-DOS ScanDisk/CheckDisk but noone
seemed to have any suggestions...

I think it's essential to be able to graphically see the surface of a
disk via a GUI to pinpoint bad blocks for remapping. For Phase5
SCSIConfig users we have to risk meddling with HDToolBox (seriously
dangerous if it writes to the RDB).

I know AmigaOS4 has good SCSI support in HDToolBox, pity us 68k users
couldn't get this HDToolBox for Workbench 3.x as it's hardly state of
the art AmigaOne G3 material (prepping a hard disk properly).

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Re: Validating a hard disk
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2004, 11:10:10 PM »
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On the subject though, doesn't AmigaOS3.9 have an inbuilt defragger like Windows?

No.

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Also, I asked on another thread if the Amiga had a disk-surface scanner like the MS-DOS ScanDisk/CheckDisk but noone seemed to have any suggestions...

Not that I know of. Anyway such scanners are mostly useless, as current IDE/SCSI drives map the damaged areas internally. If the damage shows up in actual scan, the hdd is ready for scrapping already.