AmigaOS 4.x to support about 180 Graphics card chips

[mikeymike]

Try not to read into everything with such over-riding optimism - just because SciTech have written stuff supporting over 170 graphics cards, it doesn't mean AmigaOS4 will support anywhere near that many.

[Rogue]

Sorry, blame us for the last year, but leave out the rest. We are not responsible for what happened before that.

[Eric_Z]

@mikeymike

How does SNAP work (by your comment it seems as you're the apropriate source of information on the matter)?

Do you "just" have to port SNAP itselfe and make it work with p96, then you can use all of SNAPs OS agnostic drivers, or are the agnostic drivers not well... agnostic. Meaning that you have to not just make SNAP to be accessable by p96 but allso "fix" all of the separate drivers so they'll work with AmigaOS?

[Rogue]

Yeah, sure. You ought to know, right? We're just a bunch of idiot that have hacked together 3D drivers more or less by accident.

Yes, the drivers are 2D. Yes, some of the supported chipsets are older once, that is because SNAP does support a *wide* range of cards. They go up to the latest offerings from Matrox, ATI and nVidia.

How long the 3D drivers take is something that you cannot judge. I know that absence of knowledge usually doesn't stop people from posting about it. But please don't try to put us up as idiots, and most of all not SciTech, which are a very professional company with lots of experience in this field.

[ksk]

"blame us for the last year, "

Huh! :-o   What next, a public appology?  ;-)

I bet it would be too much for the community at one go...    :-P  :-D  :-P  ;-)

[Eric_Z]

@Rouge

Who are you ranting at?

[Rogue]

anyway how many chips do we actually need to have supported to make a viable os? 3? ATI,MATROX and Nvidia?

I bet you wouldn't be asking this question if you had a Voodoo 5 or a Permedia 2...

[Rogue]

Well the probably biggest problem however is that  most of the gfx card drivers of SNAP for advanced  cards are probably based on object files  provided by the card manufactures and these are  only available for x86 and not ppc.  

Where does it say so?

[Rogue]

I am ranting at whoever wrote he waited four years for OS 4. Like I said, we're on it for a year, not four.

[Rogue]

Would you enlighten us as to why you think that way? Or where you'd get your information from?

[Rogue]

OK, I need to start quoting the stuff I am ranting about...

mikeymike wrote:
Try not to read into everything with such over-riding optimism - just because SciTech have written stuff supporting over 170 graphics cards, it doesn't mean AmigaOS4 will support anywhere near that many.

Perhaps you can enlighten me as to where you get your inside information from?

I am really a bit confused now. You say, "no they won't support that many", others say "you don't need that many"... What now?

[Bodie]

Rogue wrote:
OK, I need to start quoting the stuff I am ranting about...

mikeymike wrote:
Try not to read into everything with such over-riding optimism - just because SciTech have written stuff supporting over 170 graphics cards, it doesn't mean AmigaOS4 will support anywhere near that many.

Perhaps you can enlighten me as to where you get your inside information from?

I am really a bit confused now. You say, "no they won't support that many", others say "you don't need that many"... What now?

We them all... ALLLLLLL  ;-) .

Now have a few  :pint:  :pint: on me.

[lempkee]

rogue@: i know what you mean , this is a normal day on forums , people saying the oposite to what is said , flamebait.

i am still happy about the good news and i guess that this thread will become abit longer and more interesting within the next 10 hours...as now everyone is sleeping .P or at work...

Hyperion...

I really don't think there's any need for you to defend your position.

What you have done here is nothing short of awesome.
For those who don't understand the possibilities here....

It's not really worth trying to explain to them.

I think that most of us know exactly what this means.

Hyperion Rule!!!

Keep on truckin' and don't listen to people who have no idea what they are talking about.

Great Job Hyperion!

[KennyR]

Oh, and here's the guy who was complaining about "thread after thread of MOS bashing".

Exactly right, Kay!

It's always the same. You see a positive statement on OS4, and its a certainty someone high up in Genesi or MOS development will come forward and say "Hey, that's a load of crap, you guys know nothing, here's the real deal from us real coders..." Most of the time it's just an exercise in nitpicking, as in this case.

And as we say earlier, while the MOS core tend to like spreading FUD about every single little announcement about A1/OS4, they just don't seem to like their own medicine. Strange that.

And I'm not switching sides, by the way - I'm still pessimistic about OS4 - but unlike some, I'd actually still love it if I could get it soon. I'm just unimpressed by the culture of claim and counter-claim that's been wearying my eyes for the past years...

[poweramiga2002]

This is great news Hyperion you rule the Amiga scene this is truly utter greatness this means my radeon 9000 will work