AmigaONE benchmark - Important

[ksk]

Hammer wrote:
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For OpenSSL benchmarks refer to
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20020113045343563

 :-o  :-o  :-o  :-o  :-?

[Hammer]

After bbrv's recent hints about A1G4XE's pathetic performance,

Any numbers?

 I want to see benchmarks run on the A1. (but also benchmarks run on MOL should be ok)

What for? Does Pegy run "AmigaOS 4.0"?
I have enough Linux boxes inside my house..

“AmigaOS 3.9” compatibility can be obtain via the cheaper X86 based solutions (still waiting for Berniethlon).

The JAVA version: http://www.netlib.org/benchmark/linpackjava/

Dependant on the Java virtual machine.  Good for benchmarking between Java VMs btw.

[Hammer]

ksk wrote:

Hammer wrote:
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For OpenSSL benchmarks refer to
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20020113045343563

 :-o  :-o  :-o  :-o  :-?
 

Its just an illustration on how some benchmarks can change a particular outcome. OpenSSL benchmark doesn’t tell the real picture except for OpenSSL based tasks.

Ideally, one should use a combo benchmarks.

Oracle or MySQL benchmarks would be nice for my case.

[ksk]

Hammer wrote:

After bbrv's recent hints about A1G4XE's pathetic performance,

Any numbers?

No.
Just that Peg1G3@600 "performs better than" A1G4XE.

 I want to see benchmarks run on the A1. (but also benchmarks run on MOL should be ok)

What for? Does Pegy run "AmigaOS 4.0"?

Nope.
But I love using AmigaOS and I have load of AOS3.x apps.
I want to continue using AmigaOS like OS.
Peg1 with MOS is one of the options.

“AmigaOS 3.9” compatibility can be obtain via the cheaper X86 based solutions (still waiting for Berniethlon).

I woud like to get rid of my noisy x86 kludge HW.
But yes, Umilator would be also one option, if it existed.

The JAVA version: http://www.netlib.org/benchmark/linpackjava/

Dependant on the Java virtual machine.  Good for benchmarking between Java VMs btw.

But when using identical JVM, it's also good for benchmarking system performance, right?

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Update:

Example of Linpack results on x86:
http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/2002q4/athlonxp-2800/index.x?pg=3

I would love to see A1G4XE somewhere between those graphs...
http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/2001q2/pentium4-1.7/index.x?pg=4

[Hammer]

Just that Peg1G3@600 "performs better than" A1G4XE.

Need more than that i.e. refer AMD's benchmark disclosures as an example.

I woud like to get rid of my noisy x86 kludge HW.

Would that change the fortune of AmigaOS significantly?

But when using identical JVM, it's also good for benchmarking system performance, right?

Some of benchmarks doesn't reveal Java VM type.

Refer to http://www17.tomshardware.com/graphic/20021218/vgacharts-05.html
Athlon XP/nForce VS Pentium 4 in regards to entertainment market segment.

[Hammer]

ksk wrote:

BTW: I think this benchmark digs out some possible memory bus bottlenecs: http://www.netlib.org/linpack/

The JAVA version: http://www.netlib.org/benchmark/linpackjava/

Using IE 6.0 SP1(via MS Java VM), WinXP Pro SP1,  Athlon XP 1800+(1.5Ghz), ASUS A7N8XD-D. This test box delivers 127.795 Mflops.

(Point scoring can be increased by switching  to ram's bandwidth to PC2700 (with suitable 333Mhz FSB CPU), I’m currently using PC2700 DDR RAMs @ PC2100 speeds).  

PC3200 could be use for 400Mhz FSB Athlon XP (o/c)for the maximum potential of EV6 bus).

This test box has beaten Ron Buss's "124 Mflop/s;  AMD XP 2700+; 2/10/03" results.

I don't know what has happen to Ron Buss's Athlon XP 2700+ box... It should be faster compared to 266Mhz FSB class 1.5Ghz Athlon XP CPUs .

I may try Sun's Java VM later.

PS; I'm well aware of IBM's PPC 970 (release @ 2003 H2). I don't know why you have posted this? This product has yet to materialized in the market place.

Secondly, the IBM PPC 970 has competitions from Intel’s IA-64, Intel’s Pentium 4 (Prescott core) and AMD’s X86-64.

Noted that IBM PPC 970's has an estimated of 55 million transistors (similar to Pentium 4 and Athlon XP (Barton core). So much for peace and quiet.

[ksk]

post gone to bitheaven...

[Damion]

My C64 runs OS4 natively...  

[Karlos]

I must not get sucked into this thread....I must not get sucked into this thread...

D'Oh!

ksk wrote:

mips_proc wrote:

Really AmigaONE G4-800Mhz wins over P4 2,6Ghz, this without level3 cache?

if it where only true...
...

But it IS true. On those tiny little tings, like OGR/RC5.  ;-)

The thing is, for whatever reason, the P4 does not implement certian (or maybe all) integer rotate instructions. Such things end up implemented as shifs and or'ing etc.
The RC5 client makes heavy use of these and as such, the PPC which is top dog at shift/rotate anyway, will cope rather better. Im not sure for certian, but if altivec is able to perform these instructions on sets of integer data in parallel, you can expect a big performance increase.

The thing is that these are synthetic tests. The P4 at the same clockspeed as a G4 will probably outperform it in other areas, especially in memory intensive code.

I really do think it's in IBM / Motorola's interest to haul ass and start supporting technology like DDR memory. Before anybody says that isn't a performance requirement (which frankly I doubt), just think about the price alone - DDR memory is getting cheaper than PC133 memory, simply because the PC market moves ahead so quickly and there is more demand.
What's more, the DDR capable PPC's would have less dependency on large L3 caches which would lower overall system prices further.

[ksk]

Now A1SE and A1XE tested side by side:
http://personal.inet.fi/cool/pekosbil/a1benchmarks.htm

Soon also on pegasos....

(please notice that those test are not done by me (so, all credits to Pekka, please ;-) ) and that they are no way scientificly accurate, but they should give some rough hints about the performance)

( after recompiling with motorolla math libraries, it seems that PPC performance jumped up 300% in some cases)  :-)

[JetRacer]

Just for reference..

I made my own math benchmark and compared the 68060 with the creme de la creme of Intel and AMD.

The result was that the 68060 could only run with the pedal to the metal (1 IPC) in one case (tested 1+1, 1+0, X+1,(X+Y)*z, etc). I also tested FP, Integer and fast FP emu. There was also a test where random data in three buffers (far larger than any of the processors cache) was processed against eachother. Both the AMD and the Intel performed flat out in all cases (same result no matter how advanced the exercise was). The 68060 was left far, far behind in the IPC race. Make no mistake: neither Intel nor AMD produce crap.

I'm back by the way. Well, sort of.

[JetRacer]

Like anyone actually cared. Perhaps I should give it the day, or so.

Just spotted my own tagline (silent scream). That's what I get for being away all this time :-(

[ksk]

While Pekka is waiting for the results of peg1, is there anywhere a pegasos benchmark page?

[poweramiga2002]

I have a few bench marks of my own A1200 crashes 6 to 7 times a year ibook about 2 times a week pc 6 to 7 times a day !!!!! :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-o  :-o  :-o  :-o  :-o  :-o  ;-)  ;-)  ;-)  ;-)

[Karlos]

Mine crashed last night :-(
Was programming at the time and lost some work :-x

I wouldn't mind, but it was AmigaAmp that trashed the exec memory list (no idea why) - I hadn't even compiled my code.

Still, first time in 5 months :-)

[Bodie]

poweramiga2002 wrote:
I have a few bench marks of my own A1200 crashes 6 to 7 times a year ibook about 2 times a week pc 6 to 7 times a day !!!!! :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-o  :-o  :-o  :-o  :-o  :-o  ;-)  ;-)  ;-)  ;-)

Today I received a rather bizarre crash message on my Windoze machine.  In the dialog box it stated that Save had crashed?  What the hell is Save? LOL, and no I was not trying to save anything it just flashed before my eyes!  Weird  :crazy: .