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Program to take screenshots of copper rainbows?
« on: November 28, 2004, 02:06:33 PM »
Does anybody know of a screenshot/grab program that also captures/converts copper "rainbows"? I've seen screenshots of games like "Lionheart" and "Shadow of the Beast" that have also captured the background rainbow copperlist. (..and before you say "check Aminet", I already have)


My main reason for wanting this is that I've just done the most awesome configuration of microgolded (thanks Dietmar!) with copper rainbows and I'd like to take a screenshot and post it. (dark gradient behind window with darker "simulated transparency" on popup menus, darker gradient on windows, all on only 8 colour screen - unbelievable!)

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Re: Program to take screenshots of copper rainbows?
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2004, 02:18:06 PM »
not so easy :-(

IIRC the "Action Replay" hardware, could do this job.

 
 

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Re: Program to take screenshots of copper rainbows?
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2004, 02:36:29 PM »
I always wanted one of those.

The alternative is a framegrabber... The best "framegrabber" is WinUAE. ;-)
 

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Re: Program to take screenshots of copper rainbows?
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2004, 02:54:38 PM »
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"The alternative is a framegrabber... The best "framegrabber" is WinUAE."


Hmmm..WinUAE, huh? (..said while scratching head and looking at ceiling..) Never heard of it. Does it run on an Amiga 500? ;-)

Yes, I thought it would be a tricky thing (on a real Amiga). The captured image would also have to be saved as 24bit IFF to make sure there were enough colours available. Also, probably most people would not have a use for such a program.

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Re: Program to take screenshots of copper rainbows?
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2004, 03:23:42 PM »
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Hmmm..WinUAE, huh? (..said while scratching head and looking at ceiling..) Never heard of it. Does it run on an Amiga 500? ;-)


Well....

You could use the Amiga port of UAE (sounds stupid, I know :-D ) but you'd have to duplicate your install inside the emulator and it'd be verrrrrryyyy slow unless you've got a fast 68060 or something (not that speed would matter for taking a screenshot).  Also, you'd need enough colours in the palette to be able to display the copper generated colours "normally" - since you're using an 8 colour screen I doubt that you've got RTG ;-)

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Re: Program to take screenshots of copper rainbows?
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2004, 03:50:38 PM »
@alx

There's an Amiga port of UAE? How bizarre.

I don't think I want to play around with that - especially just to take a screenshot. (and most UNIX ports on the Amiga are unbelievably bad and tedious as hell)

Yes, I know that even if I managed to take the screenshot, I wouldn't be able to display it properly on my Amiga (have to display it in HAM). It was just for showing other people. Oh well, now nobody will ever see my awesome config. *sniff, sniff* :cry:

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Re: Program to take screenshots of copper rainbows?
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2004, 03:54:08 PM »
You could go low-tech and take a picture of the screen? ;-)
 

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Re: Program to take screenshots of copper rainbows?
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2004, 04:01:27 PM »
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There's an Amiga port of UAE? How bizarre.


Apparently its great for use on heavily expanded systems that aren't fully compatible with games written for the A500.  I don't have that problem on my fairly meagre setup myself though  :lol:

Why don't you send your config to someone else with the hardware to make a screenshot?

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Re: Program to take screenshots of copper rainbows?
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2004, 04:05:27 PM »
that_punk_guy

eh, eh :-)

to be honest, was my first thought too . . .better than nothing :-)

He could try with a genlock tied with the A500 and a second Amiga or PC, with a Framegrabber capabilities but sometimes, genlocks doesn't sinc with such copper screens.

 

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Re: Program to take screenshots of copper rainbows?
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2004, 04:38:16 PM »
I really don't think you can grab a copperlist outside of an emulator or without a framegrabber of some kind since the thing is generated realtime.
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Re: Program to take screenshots of copper rainbows?
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2004, 05:01:46 PM »
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"You could go low-tech and take a picture of the screen?"


Well... I'm a little too low-tech - I don't own a digital camera (D'oh!).


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"Why don't you send your config to someone else with the hardware to make a screenshot?"


It's a little complicated. There's ModePro config to set the palette, VisualPrefs config to pick colours/styles, microgolded config, rainbow to set the 2 gradients and my fancy fonts. I don't think anybody would want to install all that just so I could post a screenshot.

Well thanks anyway for your suggestions. :-)

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Re: Program to take screenshots of copper rainbows?
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2004, 05:33:47 PM »
I've never tried taking a screenshot of something where one of the colours has been replaced with copper-generated lines, but I guess that the copper-generated bits just come out as a flat colour?  If so, why not take a screenshot normally then send that and the details of the copper list to someone with UAE - presumably if they set up the screen identically they could get the copper adjusting the "right" colours of the palette and reconstruct it that way in order to take a screenshot?  This better look good though :-D

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Re: Program to take screenshots of copper rainbows?
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2004, 05:56:36 PM »
Yes, I was just thinking of that. In the screenshot, the 2 "copper-replaced" colours just come out as the regular colours.

So, technically all somebody would need to do is run the rainbow program while viewing the IFF screenshot in the foreground (with Visage or Viewtek - blank borders) and the colours will be replaced by the 2 nifty rainbows. Then they could do that WinUAE framegrab (or whatever it is).

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Re: Program to take screenshots of copper rainbows?
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2004, 06:06:36 PM »
Back when I was using a real Amiga full time (sigh), I solved this problem by taking a screenshot, opening it in True Brilliance, and using the gradient tool and fill tools to fake the copper rainbow.
 

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Re: Program to take screenshots of copper rainbows?
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2004, 08:28:32 PM »
The amiga-magazines back in the old days used IV-24 cards in the professional Amiga 2000. :-P
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