OS4, When ?

[SidMan]

I wouldn't give up on OS4.0 at all. I'm sure it is just round the corner, it just happens to be a very long street!

:-)

I like the sound of OS4.0, the feature list looks good. But I don't have any pressing reasons to aquire it instantly. I can get by with my old 3.9 tower and my PC for the time being - At least until OS4 finally arrives.

[MarkTime]

That was quite interesting...

So no march, no april, no predictions, no nothing.
Oh well, everyone has their limit, mine has been
reached....

only trouble is the pegasos is not actually in stock at the moment.... sigh, but soon I'll be moving on...finally...time to have fun again, as they say.

[alx]

If that is the real reason, I'd like A inc to make an official announcement.  That said, if they did it could be twisted around in all sorts of ways.

Anyone have any idea how long it would take them to get the money?

I wouldn't give up on OS4.0 at all. I'm sure it is just round the corner, it just happens to be a very long street!

I'm prepared to wait a year or so, if it comes to it...

[SidMan]

Hmmmm... Reading that thread makes bad reading.

It never rains in Amiga Land....... Only Pours..

It would be nice to have some kind of statement about the current situation I agree.

:nervous:

[MarkTime]

If that is the real reason, I'd like A inc to make an official announcement. That said, if they did it could be twisted around in all sorts of ways.

If that is the real reason,'We have no money and we aren't paying our contractors'....then how/why do you think that would be twisted?

Thats outrageously bad... it doesn't need twisting...it stands on its own merits as being incredibly, stupendously, seriously...bad bad, capital B bad.

More likely, they will send out some impossibly cryptic pr message, and that will have to be 'twisted' (aka clarified).

[B00tDisk]

specfreak wrote:
Don't suppose anyone knows when OS4 is comming out ?  I've had my cash ready for ages and want to get it up and running on my A1200(t):
http://www.sunderland.ac.uk/~as0aba/MyAmiga/MyAmiga.html
April the 1st perhaps  :-D
Regards
Andy Barker

Mid-late 2004 at the earliest.

Won't matter; there won't be a user base to purchase it by then.

[z5]

They have no money for development of OS4? They #@*$^ ripped $50000 of loyal amiga users...


What a bunch of loosers AInc is... always have been, always will be...

Amiga is DEAD and has been dead since 1992. I really hope they go down really soon (the sooner the better) as it is obvious that they aren't making anything out of it.

btw. i am talking about Amiga Inc only.

[JaXanim]

I've asked that Eyetech comment on the Amiga_sa post
'cos it impacts on the sale of AmigaOne. As noted, in the
post, who wants an A1 just to run Linux!

I've also been reminded that Alan is in the Far East this
week, so there'll be no comment from Eyetech till next week.

I hope this gets sorted OK.

Cheers,

JaXanim
http://waveguide.v-2-1.net
(For thoroughbreds)

[Kronos]

@B00tDisk

 :-D  :-D

And now guess with whom you share your avartar (and I though you were).


 :-P  :-P

[SlimJim]

Someone in another thread said Fleecy had anwered an
e-mail mentioning a soon-to-come statement from AInc
concerning what's going on, including a statement on the
status of AOS4.
 
I don't really see the reason for people lashing out at
AInc in every situation (hoping they will go bancrupt etc.)
They have done some seriously bad PR stunts, agreed. But
do anyone actually think they wanted things to turn the
way they did? Don't you think they too wanted to have
AOS+DE out already two years or so ago?
 Apart from people having genuine claims (like that coupon
nightmare, and even there there are different views), I find
it rather childish when people say they have been
"betrayed" or "cheated"by AInc. If these rumors (note
*rumors*, so far at least) are true, I feel sorry for AInc. I
can only imagine the frustration they've been through
the last years.
 
As for me, I have enough computing power between my
A4000 and my Linux box to afford to wait for the fabled
AOS4. As a looong time Amigan, I don't like the situation
(who does?), but I won't get desperate either.
 
I won't give up until Hyperion makes a statement that they
have put the AOS4 project on ice indefinately. Hopefully
that will never happen though.
.
SlimJim

[Tomas]

From the latest rumours i have heard its not out until atleast end of 2003.... SIIIIIIIIIIIGH  :-x  :-x  :-x  :-x  :-x

Which means the AmigaONE hardware will even be more outdated by then.. i think this is the final stake in the heart for the amiga... oficially dead.... no way it can have a chance to survive now.

just lies and more lies... Was supposed to be done a long time ago.. Then amigaINC promised they will launch it in march 2003, but would probably be avaliable before that time... But now end of 2003 at the earliest??? fu*k... And i bet they will delay it even further...

And yeah, most of os4 was supposed to be 99% done months ago i remember seing in the status update that was posted...

[jumpship]

I don't really see the reason for people lashing out at
AInc in every situation (hoping they will go bancrupt etc.)
They have done some seriously bad PR stunts, agreed. But
do anyone actually think they wanted things to turn the
way they did? Don't you think they too wanted to have
AOS+DE out already two years or so ago?
Apart from people having genuine claims (like that coupon
nightmare, and even there there are different views), I find
it rather childish when people say they have been
"betrayed" or "cheated"by AInc. If these rumors (note
*rumors*, so far at least) are true, I feel sorry for AInc. I
can only imagine the frustration they've been through
the last years.

Now come on, that would be fair now wouldn't it, putting the old shoe on the other foot. ;-)

I have to admit I do agree with you on this, while AInc have done some bad PR (name me a company that hasn't), it isn't as if they have planned for all this to go wrong, or the Dot.COM bubble to burst. It is unfortunate yes, and maybe it could have been handled better, but to say "I hope AInc go bankrupt etc (which would prob kill off any chance of getting OS4+) is a bit overkill, no pun intended. :lol:

[Paul_Gadd]

Amiga inc have brought it on themselves,

How can anyone take a company serious what can not do simple things like sorting out t-shirts,

I wonder if those guys are knitting them.

[SlimJim]

@Jumpship
 

Now come on, that would be fair now wouldn't it, putting the old shoe on the other foot.

Can't have that, now can we? ;-)
 
@et al
 
At any rate,  I find the statement that AInc "hasn't yet
payed Hyperion for completing AOS4" a little odd. I was
under the impression that Hyperion owned the full rights to
AOS4. In fact, Ben himself has said that because of this,
AOS4 could go on, even if worst came to worst and AInc
folded. The fact that Hyperion has ALREADY had to do
some other contractual work "on the side" (thus slowing the
development of AOS4) has always indicated (to me) that
they carried all the economical risk themselves. Isn't this
what so many have bashed AInc for, they not having a
financial stake in development?
 
And now suddenly, AOS4 need the money from AInc:s
Microsoft deal to be completed. Either something has
changed a lot behind the scenes lately, or something is
wrong with this *rumor*.
.
SlimJim

[Waccoon]

I don't really see the reason for people lashing out at AInc in every situation (hoping they will go bancrupt etc.)  They have done some seriously bad PR stunts, agreed. But do anyone actually think they wanted things to turn the way they did?

This is the information age.  So, where's the information?  One executive update every six months doesn't cut it in this market.  Amiga is either broke or totally absorbed in a special project with TAO and can't realease any information.  In either case, Amiga Inc. really has nothing to do with AmigaOS anymore.  If they do, they sure don't show it.

I agree with z5.  The early orders, the coupons... and then the damned silence.  This runs far deeper than just a bad PR stunt.  I bought the SDK and was immediately disturbed by the lack of anything but recycled JAVA apps already available to the PC world.  There wasn't much VP in there, never mind DE.  Serves me right.

Anyone want to buy a Win32 SDK?  

Nobody can speculation on the situation at Amiga, since nobody is saying a peep, at least not officially.  All I know is that the way they run their business is amateurish, and with these kinds of business practices, I doubt they'll produce any software that will prove useful to anyone.

[zacman]

>I was under the impression that Hyperion owned
>the full rights to AOS4. In fact, Ben himself has said
>that because of this, AOS4 could go on, even if
>worst came to worst and AInc folded.

Well that was the case when Hyperion still had
ThridParty projects that gave them a little money.
However it's likely that Hyperion can't afford to work
on OS4 for several months and pay all their full time
developers (3) with own cash. Therefore they have
to do Thirdparty projects which then delays OS4.
Therefore it *could be* that Hyperion asked Amiga
Inc. "Ok, if you want OS4 out "soon", pay us, or it'll
get delayed even more". Maybe Amiga Inc. has then
accepted this new deal, but because Amiga Inc. isn't
able to pay them Hyperion has to delay OS4. I'd like
to remind you that for the very same reason (Amiga
Inc. not paying H&P) OS4 has already failed one
time. Wouldn't wonder if history repeats.

On the other hand Mr Gutjahr said that someone of
Hyperion informed him that OS4 is progressing well
today, so that he comes to the impression that
Amiga Inc. is telling BS. SO I guess it's best just to
wait for Cebit and the OS4 version that Hyperion
announced to show there. March 12th-19th will be
an interesting week