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[Karlos]

Hmm. I'm not about to attempt the reverse engineering of the OS4 bootloader if that is what you are hinting at :-P

Even if I lacked the requisite scruples, long lists of PPC asm does my nut in :lol:

[bloodline]

Karlos wrote:
Hmm. I'm not about to attempt the reverse engineering of the OS4 bootloader if that is what you are hinting at :-P

Even if I lacked the requisite scruples, long lists of PPC asm does my nut in :lol:

Actually, I wasn't suggesting that at all, and anyway that wouldn't be much use to us (at the moment) as it still has the Real Kickstart to POST the hardware... something that AROS needs to do itself to fully replace the Amiga's Kisckstart.

I agree PPC ASM is like some kind of evil diease... just like x86 ASM :-D

[Karlos]

Ah. Oops :lol:

PPC asm isnt as evil as x86 though, IMHO, but the mnemonics are a {bleep}*

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*:lol: Ok, a "female dog" then ;-)

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Karlos wrote:
Ah. Oops :lol:

PPC asm isnt as evil as x86 though, IMHO, but the mnemonics are a {bleep}*

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*:lol: Ok, a "female dog" then ;-)

PPC ASM is the kind of language only a mother could love :-)

Nothing compares, IMHO, to MIPS ASM which is fantastic!

[Karlos]

680x0 asm owns all. An asm you can actually enjoy using!

[bloodline]

Karlos wrote:
680x0 asm owns all. An asm you can actually enjoy using!

I used to think that too... but now I like MIPS more :-)

[Piru]

Hit a stumbling bock on the PPC, though as it seems that the varargs function has different behaviour on different platforms (passing parameters in registers or on the stack).

Well, you pick one ABI for AROS/powerpc and stick to it. Be it System V, PowerOpen, or something else. There is no problem here.

the best option would be to remove it from the AROS core, but apparently that would take a huge amount of work

That's just insane. Varargs works just fine with PPC.

[bloodline]

Piru wrote:

Hit a stumbling bock on the PPC, though as it seems that the varargs function has different behaviour on different platforms (passing parameters in registers or on the stack).

Well, you pick one ABI for AROS/powerpc and stick to it. Be it System V, PowerOpen, or something else. There is no problem here.

the best option would be to remove it from the AROS core, but apparently that would take a huge amount of work

That's just insane. Varargs works just fine with PPC.

Well... best talk to Michal and Fabio about it, because I'm probably confusing something then :-D

[Karlos]

bloodline wrote:

Karlos wrote:
680x0 asm owns all. An asm you can actually enjoy using!

I used to think that too... but now I like MIPS more :-)

I don't know MIPS asm :-(

[bloodline]

Karlos wrote:

bloodline wrote:

Karlos wrote:
680x0 asm owns all. An asm you can actually enjoy using!

I used to think that too... but now I like MIPS more :-)

I don't know MIPS asm :-(

It's right proper bo I tell thee!

[Karlos]

[welck]

Seems like I started up something

Maybe I should start annoying hyperion about those old versions of AmigaOS. It is a nice dream isn't it?  :-D

[bloodline]

welck wrote:
Seems like I started up something

Maybe I should start annoying hyperion about those old versions of AmigaOS. It is a nice dream isn't it?  :-D

No point bugging them, they have as much right to the old OS's as you do.

[Dietmar]

First time posting here but it's a post I also placed on the AmigaOS site. No reason not being well informed  I've been thinking; is there any incentive to make older Amiga OS's (like OS 3.5 and before) freely available for download? Preferably for any platform?

I can't see any problems for the industry; the AmigaOS would spread freely among users and software companies can still sell their Amiga programs.

What if we and/or Amiga companies alike could buy the rights from KMOS inc, have it compiled for all the platforms and have it freely distributed. Beacuse I can't see Amiga OS being commercially exploited (competing with Windblows) but definitly the great programs that it runs!

First time posting here but it's a post I also placed on the AmigaOS site. No reason not being well informed I've been thinking; is there any incentive to make beer (like water) freely available for drinking? Preferably for anybody?

I can't see any problems for the industry; the beer would spread freely among users and snack companies can still sell their snack stuff.

What if we and/or beer companies alike could buy the rights from KBEER Inc and have it freely distributed. Because I can't see beer being commercially exploited (competing with schnaps) but definitly the great snacks that go with it!

The beer would be in hands of a consortium of beer users which could have agreements about standards and common development. Wouldn't that be sweet?

Anyone up for an incentive like this? Or is this only a daydream?

[Argo]

UAE and Amiga Forever. There you go. Okay, Amiga Forever isn't free. Most of what you are talking about is available with Amiga Forever. Don't have a X86 PC. Get UAE for you platform and use the files off of the Amiga Forever CD.
Though AmigaOS in its various versions are out there in the wild (p2p) if you look.

What if we and/or Amiga companies alike could buy the rights from KMOS inc, have it compiled for all the platforms and have it freely distributed

That wouldn't work for a number of reasons. Such as, Chipset specific code, multiple liceneced IP holders on various parts of the OS, would have to be rewritten in a cross platfrom way from the mix of C, 68K asm, and BCPL.
Then again why not just licence Amiga OS 4.x

I hear Tripos has been made opensource...

[Argo]

Seems like I started up something

Looks like an AROS discussion. AKA an opensource (free) reimplemention of Amiga OS. There you go. A free AmigaOS that can be taken cross platform. Not sure what this has to to with KMOS or Hyperion.