A post confirming stuff about MorphOS

[poweramiga2002]

@bbrv

go suck lemons the only person screwing ppl here is you

[bbrv]

@kgrach

No, you must not know what you talking about.  The injunctions issued under false pretenses were removed.  Further, we sold nearly all of our VisCorp stock and own all the VisCorp patents to this day.  How did that happen?  Guess you did not get the full story.  How about you do a little more research and post something more than what just spews from your mouth next time.

BTW, who said Carl never did his job?  We never did.  And, check with Carl while you are at it.  He got his last pay check.

Bill

[Argo]

From the Amiga History Archive:
http://amiga.emugaming.com/viscorp.html

From: Carl Sassenrath
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: From Carl Sassenrath
Date: 13 Nov 1996 19:50:02 GMT
Organization: Pacific Internet
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Message-ID: <56d8pa$i5e@north.pacific.net>
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Dear Amigans,

Many of you have been wondering what's happening with VIScorp, the Amiga, and why my name is no longer on the vistv web site.

I hope this is not too long-winded for you, but here is a brief summary of my story:

I joined VIScorp about a year ago as a consultant to help them create new system software for the Amiga. I believed at that time that they had the ability to take the Amiga into several new, huge markets around the world. They made many promises to me in order to get me to join the project.
In March 1996 VIScorp informed me that they planned to buy Amiga Technologies. The reason was simple: for the vast quantities of Amigas that they planned, it was cheaper to buy AT then to pay the royalty. It seemed to me that this could work, if they could come up with the money.
Over the months that followed, I made numerous suggestions to VIScorp regarding what they needed to do to support and further improve the Amiga. I even proposed a business plan centered around the Amiga, as it seemed to me that you CAN have an ALTERNATE computer for people who don't want PCs. After all, what would our cars be like if only one company produced them? The Amiga offered us a choice.
VIScorp never responded to my suggestions. Not once. In fact, they kept me totally in the dark as to what they were doing and what progress had been made on the AT deal. I never knew from day to day what was going to happen next.
By August I was starting to tire of VIScorp and its unkept promises to all of us. They were 110 days behind in paying me, and I was very disappointed in the whole mess that they had brought on the Amiga community, developers and dealers, and myself. It had become clear to me that VIScorp was not competent. I took a couple weeks off and went to Florida.
In September I tried to recruit RJ Mical to join the team. I put a lot of energy into it, as RJ was skeptical of VIScorp. I finally succeeded! Then, VIScorp blew him off. RJ and I couldn't believe it. What were they doing?
Finally, I decided to focus 100% on what they had originally hired me for: to create a TV set-top Amiga. Perhaps if we could build a good demo, VIScorp could convince one of its investors to contribute extra cash. By the end of September, Don, Steve, Jim, and I had finished a dazzling prototype of such an STB. In my opinion, it really showed off what the Amiga could do as a STB. The software for it was entirely written by Jim and I, because VIScorp had not been paying any of the other contractors.
After delivering the prototype, I never heard a word back. VIScorp was again far behind in payments. What were they doing? What had gone wrong? What was next?
Whatever it was, I didn't want to be part of it any longer. I've never seen such an idiotic, screwed-up, incompetent company (and I am saying it mildly). VIScorp was worse than Commodore, and I never thought that was possible. I took my name off the web site, vowing not to be a part of this lunacy.
So what can I say? Please don't flame me for doing this. I refuse to be part of such a sloppy situation, regardless of my love for the Amiga. Over the last 10 months I have heard from many of you, and have sent nearly 1500 personal email replies to you. All I can say is that I am sorry that I could not do more for you and our Amiga Computer.

I am unsure what the future holds for the Amiga. Perhaps VIScorp or some other company will scrape together enough cash to make the AT purchase. We can only hope.

As for my future, I am going to return to what I do best: operating systems and languages. You have not heard the last from me. I can imagine a system much better than the Amiga.... now to create it. Truely, only time will tell.

Stay in touch my friends.

Sincerely yours,

Carl Sassenrath
Ex-VIScorp OS Guy
carl@sassenrath.com

Permission granted to copy and repost.

Sounds familar some how...

[Coder]

@Wayne

(I certainly didn't invite Matt Sealey to come from England for a booty call with his boyfriend Ben)

:hat:

"If next year this isn't 'Pegasos-West' and Amiga Inc isn't dead, we've done something terribly wrong' was rather telling.

Good lord.

Coder

[Coder]

@Colin_Camper

after I heard he was driving a taxi cab to make ends meet.

I had no idea.

However if there is no money then there's NO MONEY! Build a bridge and get over it!

Sure when there is nothing you cannot get nothing but when you are waiting for a large sum of cash it's not easy to just get over it.

Coder

[Coder]

@Darrin

Yep, Sorry Wayne, sorry everyone, sorry FrAmiga. Kneejerk reaction. My itchy trigger-finger!!! Sorry...

You know the drill Darrin, drop down and give us 20! :-P

Coder

[kgrach]

@BBRV

Sigh, I don't have time for this.

Bill this isn't helping your case or your company.

pmail me in private

kgrach

ps in no way is anything said here to be construed as an attack on morphOS or the pegasos!!!

[kolla]

Yep, Sorry Wayne, sorry everyone, sorry FrAmiga. Kneejerk reaction. My itchy trigger-finger!!! Sorry...

Oh the irony...

[magnetic]

BBRV

No one in Genesi USA had a written contract afaik. Whether he was an employee or contract is not relevant. Verbal agreements are contract  - of course not provable unless  a witness is present. If you hire a guy in your company to sweep the floor @ $8.00 per hour and you fire the guy after 2 weeks because you didnt like his sweeping performance, this does NOT mean you do not owe said worker those wages. That is incorrect logic IMO.

magnetic


ps.. all the   performers are NOT being paid presently

I will say from knowing you that you have alot of integrity and wish that you could pay all the outstanding Genesi debt. People must understand that after Pretory crash Genesi was unable to pay employees. This is understandable in the business world, especially in a startup company.  ATM Genesi is trying to work from out of this and create strategic industrial partnerships in order to climb out of this situation. Good luck and hopefully it will happen. If anyone can make it happen you will.

[Hammer]

Coder wrote:
@Wayne

"If next year this isn't 'Pegasos-West' and Amiga Inc isn't dead, we've done something terribly wrong' was rather telling.

Good lord.

Indeed...

[odin]

Kees wrote:
Is there any way i can return the Genensi T-shirts i got when I got married.
Somehow .. i dont want them anymore.
Kees

WB!

You could always burn it I guess }:-).

[Darth_X]

@everyone

If you are going to post any allegations towards Genesi or BBRV, please provide proof otherwise don't continue to spread your lies.

When I read these posts I see that quite a lot of you have very one-sided and prejudiced viewpoints.

Is it fun to attack BBRV while you conceal your own business dealings and continually sweep them all under the carpet!
:crazy:

Your expectations for BBRV are so high that none of you could reach those expectations yourself. :-D

[JKD]

Given that I wasted 1/2 hour reading this thread, I'm going to waste another couple of minutes writing a reply.

Can we please all stop with the forum game BS? I don't know what anyone hopes to acheive, lord knows you must understand it will never be the truth!

And as for the following:

1. Holier than though business morality and ethics posters

Unless less you have run a company into bankruptcy (or close to it) your opinion of what otehr people should do with ther money, running their business has no weight.

2. My best friends mate once saw someone kick their friends dog...therefore it must be BBRVs fault or BBRV is the axis of evil etc.

I mean bringing Viscorp and Amiga Inc up after all this time....c'mon guys. BBRV ruined my marriage...c'mon, who is swallowing this stuff?

The only people who have any relevance at all are the accused and the accusers and they should conduct their bloody business in a professional manner between themselves and if terms cannot be reached and litigation is the only way then go for it and stop making this tiny community even smaller and more miserable tahn it already is.

Does anyone really believe the postings at morphos.net will really acheive anything? (Well, apart from starting another pointless forum game...?)

Will someone please post me the link to where the morphos statement can be navigated to on the Genesi website...I looked a couple of days ago and it did not be appear on many of teh pages I checked from the parent website.....or s this just more forum game BS?

Do all you 'holier than thou' types think blackmail is going to succeed or indeed is ethical business practice? Or are you whiter than white when it suits the situation?

Pissed off!

 

[Darth_X]

cecilia wrote:
darling, this is NOT simply about money.
It's about people lying and treating human beings like dog poo.

The situation you describe is common here in Canada unfortunately with many american corporations that come here. Not all american corporations are bad, in fact some a great.. but the ones that aren't good give america a bad reputation.

When we were working on Children of Dune

You worked on Children of Dune? Wow! :-D

Frank was always straight with everyone. and everyone respected him.

I KNOW what it's like to be treated fairly and well and respected.

in this "Genesi" situation, there are a whole hord of people who have NOT been treated well.

Perhaps the best remedy for this situation for for everyone involved to start treating the other involved with respect!  :-)

[Hooligan_DCS]

Is there any way i can return the Genensi T-shirts i got when I got married.

Somehow .. i dont want them anymore.

Kees

Send them to me as a present for one year marriage-anniversary. I have an itch which tells me it will be a hot summer and I'll be needing them

[AmiGR]

Argh... For the last time... MorphOS is not dead.