A post confirming stuff about MorphOS

[Framiga]

Wayne

i know and i understand your situation and the one of the others dozens unpayed, used and deceived. IMHO, you have no need to justify with us.

We (at least me) know who really is BB.

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Darrin,

I believe you misunderstood the comment from FrAmiga.  He is not insulting the Military at all.  He is pointing out that Bill Buck's mindset is to see everything by "military strategies".  You know, he sees people as pawns, not employees.  He sees business situations as battles rather than potential means to an end.

Wayne

[cecilia]

Darrin wrote:

Framiga wrote:

Wayne . . .you know much better than me, the "military prone brain" of BB.

It's obvious that you know nothing of the Military and insulting all who have served to protect ungrateful filth like you doesn't make you look clever.

eh, don't lose focus. Framiga isn't the problem here. anyway, i suspect there is simply a language issue.

[Framiga]

Dear Darrin

no need to reply . . .your avatar speaks for you.

Argo,

I do own my own company (business licenses and all), so I was at least partially prepared for the tax backlash.  Much better than I would have been, had it not been for my now ex-wife's excellent planning for the situation.

Wayne

[Darrin]

Wayne wrote:
When they paid me, which was usually a month late and with excuses (multiple lost transfers and "it's Thierry's fault", then bad checks), they did not take out any taxes, meaning I had to make a payment to the IRS in April for ~$9600 dollars.

Owch!!!  I bet that REALLY didn't help your position.  After several months with no paycheque, you probably were not in a good position to pay any taxes.  :-(

Bank charges for NSF cheques no doubt added to you woes.

[Colin_Camper]

Well, if bbrv is seen flying to a large villa in the Carribean , never to be heard of again then these people are screwed.
If bbrv sticks around then these people have been slightly unlucky and slightly used. However if there is no money then there's NO MONEY! Build a bridge and get over it!

I must say I never felt screwed by Bill Mcewen for not getting a lousy t-shirt/$50 coupon after I heard he was driving a taxi cab to make ends meet.
I just hope bbrv can turn things round so they are in a position to mend a few bridges again. Amiga Inc got their chance with KMOS - lets hope genesi and the morphos team get theirs somehow.
I think people lose sight of the gamble that these people/teams/companies are taking by producing product for this niche community - gambling people always hype up their prospects. What made this episode appear all the more shocking was that the genesi 'machine' was so much more (and still is) professional looking - lets hope they get lucky and get the chance to redeem themselves. Let's face it, the only way people are going to get paid is if bbrv sells a LOT of pegasos boards.

[Framiga]

sorry Colin_Camper but MONEY are one of the LAST problem for Genesi . .  .beleive me.

[Argo]

you know much better than me, the "military prone brain" of BB.

I was thinking more along the lines of a lack of business ethics. Even war has rules. Not to mention proper business practices. Does Mr. Buck have a business degree?

@Colin,

This isn't about McEwen or Amiga Inc.  They have their own problems and when they screw up, I'm sure we'll have a topic just for that subject.  In the meantime, let's not get distracted.

Wayne

[Darrin]

cecilia wrote:
eh, don't lose focus. Framiga isn't the problem here. anyway, i suspect there is simply a language issue.

Yeah, you're right.  Sorry.

[Darrin]

Framiga wrote:
Dear Darrin

no need to reply . . .your avatar speaks for you.

I will anyway, because I'm proud of my avatar.

[Darrin]

Wayne wrote:
Darrin,

I believe you misunderstood the comment from FrAmiga.  He is not insulting the Military at all.  He is pointing out that Bill Buck's mindset is to see everything by "military strategies".  You know, he sees people as pawns, not employees.  He sees business situations as battles rather than potential means to an end.

Wayne

Yep, Sorry Wayne, sorry everyone, sorry FrAmiga.  Kneejerk reaction.  My itchy trigger-finger!!!  Sorry...

[Framiga]

sorry to you too Darrin :-) but when i speak about BB, i become in a bad mood.

[cecilia]

Colin_Camper wrote:
 However if there is no money then

darling, this is NOT simply about money.
It's about people lying and treating human beings like dog poo.

by way of comparison, let me tell you about Frank. He was the best boss/colleague I've ever known in my long career.

When we were working on Children of Dune there was some money problem (I don't recall the details).
Frank came into work one day with a long face and told me there was a problem and the best solution for time being was to give me $100 less a week. he was VERY upset by this.

more disturbed than I was. and do you know WHY I wasn't that disturbed?

Because Frank had come to me like a person and was completely HONEST with me. he treated me with RESPECT. And THAT is why I remained loyal to him. Why I would do any job he asked. and why I gave him 300% every single day.

When you treat people well - no matter who they are - you get back alot more than you give.

Frank was always straight with everyone. and everyone respected him.

I KNOW what it's like to be treated fairly and well and respected.

in this "Genesi" situation, there are a whole hord of people who have NOT been treated well. all anyone wants to do is prevent more damage.
just because I'm not a close friend of Wayne's doesn't mean I'm not completely repulsed by the way he is being treated.
I am, after all, a human being.

[Karlos]

Darrin wrote:

:lol:

I don't think you have any "incoming" to hide from, people are just a bit wound up and prone to react without thinking fully.