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Re: A post confirming stuff about MorphOS
« Reply #74 on: November 26, 2004, 05:05:41 AM »
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Someone had this pic as their backdrop. I think its is quite fitting for our little community:

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The poor little sod is the community who is being injected with Red, Blue and Green stuff but still remains as white as a ghost.


Erm, who's the green suppost to be?  AROS is black.

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Re: A post confirming stuff about MorphOS
« Reply #75 on: November 26, 2004, 05:32:10 AM »
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Erm, who's the green suppost to be?  AROS is black.

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Amizilla cash injection maybe  :-?

 

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Re: A post confirming stuff about MorphOS
« Reply #76 on: November 26, 2004, 05:45:36 AM »
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MorphOS development didn't stop. No developer from the MorphOS team has stopped working, apart from Zapek.


Even if it hasn't stopped it will continue to develop so slowly that it wont be interesting for serious users anymore, because the core developers have to find another job to pay their taxes and work on MorphOS only as parttime/hobby. And looking at the fact these $500,000 claimed to be spent on it were mostly a boost for the development in an attempt to kill the similar products on the Amiga market and make as much people as possible jumping on board, from the community, I doubt it will be much improved in the next months. The cheap mobo is also part of this tactic as well. But as the old people here say - the cheap always comes more expensive at the end.

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Re: A post confirming stuff about MorphOS
« Reply #77 on: November 26, 2004, 06:30:32 AM »
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On www.morphos-news.de you can find:

Actually, we are closing Genesi Sarl, but that will happen at the end of the year. We will just operate through Frankfurt and the USA. No more trolling please.

R&B

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If this is true, does it very much sound like... VisCorp... Pretory... Thendic-France... and now Genesi SARL.

Hope this is not just a plan to get rid of the missing payments (in an unmorally way).
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Re: A post confirming stuff about MorphOS
« Reply #78 on: November 26, 2004, 06:54:25 AM »
Cheap Pegasos1/2's is good for users, but Genesi should really have sold them at a price that could have covered their costs or paid their developers. BBRV posted somewhere they needed 25,000 Pegasos units sold a month to keep them going (I think). Thats not good. :/
 

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Re: A post confirming stuff about MorphOS
« Reply #79 on: November 26, 2004, 07:09:04 AM »
why dont we just face the facts that its all over finished and done with
 

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Re: A post confirming stuff about MorphOS
« Reply #80 on: November 26, 2004, 07:17:27 AM »
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why dont we just face the facts that its all over finished and done with


You mean Genesi?

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Re: A post confirming stuff about MorphOS
« Reply #81 on: November 26, 2004, 07:21:52 AM »
yes i mean genesi
i hope other morph os ppl will continue to write for the peg comp its just not fair what bb has been doing
 

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Re: A post confirming stuff about MorphOS
« Reply #82 on: November 26, 2004, 08:32:30 AM »
Well hello Bill!

I wondered when you would pull your head out of the hole and toss that piece of fiction up on Amiga.org in an attempt to both defend your actions and to bully me out of speaking out about the subject.

Honestly, there isn't much I can say regarding your post that isn't a violation of our own posting guidelines.  Suffice to say that the letter in question is -- like most things coming from you, "factually-challenged". -- I have no problem with your posting it, though it violates several of the aforementioned guidelines, including trolling, off-topic posting, and postings of a libelous nature.  It's been posted now for several hours, and I will allow it to remain, because it wonderfully illustrates the lengths to which you'll go to screw over one of your employees, even if you have to create a complete work of fiction to do it.  

An interesting fact is that Paul Adams himself wrote me (9/13/2004 09:59am) to state that (quote):

Because I was no longer comfortable with certain aspects of Genesi, I terminated my relationship with Genesi USA in early August.  I am no longer involved with the company in any way.  You will note on the Genesi web site that my name and address are no longer the US point of contact.  I am not sure what is going on to cause someone to post that e-mail, but I did want you to know that I had no part in that decision or that posting.

(While I apologize to the readers -- and to Paul -- for the bad form of quoting an e-mail, I'm doing so in defense of open libel.)  

Indeed, if one were strictly to guess at what Paul meant, one might think that Paul too found himself on the short end of the stick where you are concerned, but since I don't personally have any specific knowledge of the situation, I dare not speculate.

The trouble is, there are now over 8 people that I personally know of who have been screwed by you in a similar manner, the latest of which appears to be the unfortunate scapegoat David Gerber.  Outside of the four mentioned on MorphOS.net, I won't name other names here, out of respect for the personal choices of those other former co-workers, but I suspect -- like the names mentioned on MorphOS.net, they'll come forward of their own initiative when they finally realize that they're not going to ever see any of the money they're owed.  You've even publicly indicated that you either have treated, or will shortly treat Mr. Gerber to the exact same boilerplate that I was subject to, to include outright lies which state that "he didn't do any work, so we don't owe him any money".  I have been mostly silent regarding this whole situation for almost one full year, but I reserve every right to speak out when I see other friends and former co-workers still being screwed using the exact same lies you used with me.

For the record, the infamous "letter from Paul" was, in fact, received by me, but it is, in fact, full of completely fictitious events and logic.  In fact, every other member of the US Web team has agreed as to the dubious nature of it.  I guess I suppose that we should all be grateful that you personally at least had the nerve to post the letter here rather than having your "Renfield-type" minions do it for you this time.  It doesn't however change any of the facts.  

You sir, owe me in excess of 10,000 dollars (to include expenses) for work completed the months of November and December 2003, lest we forget the bad check (insufficient funds) written 12/10/2003.  You've even admitted as much in your previous attempts to get me to "accept a number of Pegasos motherboards equivalent to the amount of pay in question in exchange " (an offer you back peddled on quickly I might add).  No amount of "creative bookkeeping" on your part will belay these facts, but I digress.  The chances of me ever seeing that money are about as good as you actually taking responsibility for screwing over the lives of most of the people in your employ.

In short, I wish I had never met you.  My unfortunate dealings with you have cost me my livelihood (although the US economy hasn't helped), my health, and finally my marriage (through the stress involved in trying to recuperate from the illegitimate loss of two months' pay).  You sir, in my opinion are a liar (many examples and false press releases abound, not to mention the factually-challenged letter from Paul), a thief (based on the growing list of people unpaid for months -- and in some cases apparently years), and a bully (based on your consistent actions to myself and others, and even the release of the infamous aforementioned letter to which I am responding).

I am done with you sir.  I will not continue this subject unless you openly continue to post false (off-topic I might add) information regarding me and my tenure at Genesi in a brazen attempt to take the focus off of your own dishonorable actions.  Have a nice day.

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Re: A post confirming stuff about MorphOS
« Reply #83 on: November 26, 2004, 08:41:36 AM »
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Cheap Pegasos1/2's is good for users, but Genesi should really have sold them at a price that could have covered their costs or paid their developers. BBRV posted somewhere they needed 25,000 Pegasos units sold a month to keep them going (I think). Thats not good. :/


That cheap Pegasos was good for the users only in short term and was bad in long term as it's shown now. Even if it costed 5 euro more, that surplus could be used to pay Zapek, as it was fabricated he is the only one to blame, the others would continue to work for free and MorphOS users happily insult the Amigans on Ann.lu and the silent observers laught at them all the time.

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Re: A post confirming stuff about MorphOS
« Reply #84 on: November 26, 2004, 09:15:28 AM »
@Wayne

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An interesting fact is that Paul Adams himself wrote me (9/13/2004 09:59am) to state that (quote):
Because I was no longer comfortable with certain aspects of Genesi, I terminated my relationship with Genesi USA in early August. I am no longer involved with the company in any way. You will note on the Genesi web site that my name and address are no longer the US point of contact. I am not sure what is going on to cause someone to post that e-mail, but I did want you to know that I had no part in that decision or that posting.


That does give it another spin. Really.

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My unfortunate dealings with you have cost me my livelihood (although the US economy hasn't helped), my health, and finally my marriage (through the stress involved in trying to recuperate from the illegitimate loss of two months' pay).


Your marriage? That just plain out sucks. FUBAR or happy ending?

Good point of leaving the mail on there.

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Re: A post confirming stuff about MorphOS
« Reply #85 on: November 26, 2004, 09:31:27 AM »
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FUBAR or happy ending?


Off-topic -- (I don't normally speak openly about it, but since I did open pandora's box on the subject):

A regrettable ending, but nonetheless a reality traceable directly to two events:

1) The passing of my mom, who helped to provide focus to my life on December 8th 2003 and

2) Being screwed by Genesi, to include the NSF check received at Christmas last year.

In all honesty, I bear no ill will towards my ex-wife whatsoever.   I, in fact, wish her the best in wherever life takes her as long as she's happy.  Things between us just gradually increased in tension over the last year until we both (apparently simultaneously) decided it would be "better to be lonely than miserable", but it's not my place to speculate as to how she feels regarding the situation.  

There are lots of regrets on my part, and it's been incredibly rough on both of us, but then again, things like this are never easy for anyone involved.

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Re: A post confirming stuff about MorphOS
« Reply #86 on: November 26, 2004, 09:33:13 AM »
Hi Wayne,

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You sir, owe me in excess of 10,000 dollars (to include expenses) for work completed the months of November and December 2003, lest we forget the bad check (insufficient funds) written 12/10/2003.  You've even admitted as much in your previous attempts to get me to "accept a number of Pegasos motherboards equivalent to the amount of pay in question in exchange " (an offer you back peddled on quickly I might add).  No amount of "creative bookkeeping" on your part will belay these facts, but I digress.  The chances of me ever seeing that money are about as good as you actually taking responsibility for screwing over the lives of most of the people in your employ.

In short, I wish I had never met you.  My unfortunate dealings with you have cost me my livelihood (although the US economy hasn't helped), my health, and finally my marriage (through the stress involved in trying to recuperate from the illegitimate loss of two months' pay).  You sir, in my opinion are a liar (many examples and false press releases abound, not to mention the factually-challenged letter from Paul), a thief (based on the growing list of people unpaid for months -- and in some cases apparently years), and a bully (based on your consistent actions to myself and others, and even the release of the infamous aforementioned letter to which I am responding).

I am done with you sir.  I will not continue this subject unless you openly continue to post false (off-topic I might add) information regarding me and my tenure at Genesi in a brazen attempt to take the focus off of your own dishonorable actions.  Have a nice day.

Wayne


Although I've generally been supportive of Genesi in the past (and will always be supportive of MorphOS and
it's developers), this is sad material to read. You have my very best wishes and thoughts on getting things back together for the better.


@thread topic

Here's to the ongoing development of MorphOS. From a long-term perspective, I think the idea of a Mac port is something worth considering.

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Re: A post confirming stuff about MorphOS
« Reply #87 on: November 26, 2004, 09:43:13 AM »
@Wayne

That's just, how can I say it nicely, disaster. And still getting {bleep} all over you puts more fuel to the flames.

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Re: A post confirming stuff about MorphOS
« Reply #88 on: November 26, 2004, 02:44:41 PM »
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Coder wrote:
On www.morphos-news.de you can find:

Actually, we are closing Genesi Sarl, but that will happen at the end of the year. We will just operate through Frankfurt and the USA. No more trolling please.

R&B

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If this is true, does it very much sound like... VisCorp... Pretory... Thendic-France... and now Genesi SARL.

Hope this is not just a plan to get rid of the missing payments (in an unmorally way).
all company names have one thing in common: Buck.
see the writing on the wall????

and everything Wayne said is true. I can't reveal names of people I know publically, but privately, I've been telling this same story for the last year.
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Re: A post confirming stuff about MorphOS
« Reply #89 from previous page: November 26, 2004, 03:26:04 PM »
You wish, DrHirudo. Many of the developers never had a contract with Genesi or anyone,
they always did stuff as a hobby, yet if you see what they have developed in less than a
year you'll change your mind. No matter how much you want it, MorphOS is NOT over, it
WON'T leave you alone.
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