A post confirming stuff about MorphOS

[TheMagicM]

http://www.genesi.lu/morphos_statement.php

I wont post what I really think.  It would end up getting censored.

[Coder]

I have read it and of course it is the fault of a single person. They mean David Gerber. Let's put that in other words. He is the one that is doing what a lot of people want to do or think like that about it. The list of people that still are waiting for money is long. There is only one to blame, really. It's a sad day for the people that have bought a Pegasos and thought MOS would be their Amiga path. But do understand that in the end it had to come down to this. But playing like it's not your fault but only a single person? Tis tis tis...

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[TheMagicM]

I dont understand your reply.  Are you saying its David's fault?  or did I misinterpret that?

[Coder]

@TheMagicM

I dont understand your reply. Are you saying its David's fault? or did I misinterpret that?

Oh not at all. I mean that Genesi is saying it is because of him that we have these problems. Which is bull. He just did what many people wanted to do but did not or feel the same like he did. David is not to blame. Genesi is making it sound like that.

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[Argo]

Interestingly, from Morphos.net:

"2004-11-24: a payment plan with a MorphOS 1.5 release date of 2005-01-31 was offered to Genesi who rejected it with empty threats"

and from the Genesi statement:

"Genesi will resume support of external MorphOS 1.5 development when there is a clear plan and a date set for the release."

TheMagicM wrote:
http://www.genesi.lu/morphos_statement.php

I wont post what I really think.  It would end up getting censored.

Me neither.  :pissed:

[KennyR]

Coder wrote:
He just did what many people wanted to do but did not or feel the same like he did.

But you are guessing about that. You could visit #morphos on ArcNet and ask the other core developers whether they agree with Zapek's action, if you really want to know. That doesn't mean that Genesi are right claiming "it's all David's fault", but you probably will find that not many people wanted him to take this action, at least not so aggressively.

[Coder]

@mdma/TheMagicM

Speak. It cannot be that bad? Right?

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[Coder]

@KennyR

No doubt there that they thought his action was a bit too much. But I can understand him doing this. He's not the only one on the list waiting for money as you know. You would be surprised what is on the list. Sure coming out like that destroys any normal talks for a solution. But there are 2 parties involved. Bottom line it's sad this situation.

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[cecilia]

there's any number of reasons why people who are owed money by BBRV aren't interested in being public about it.

one is that the minute you say anything you are vilified. and if you happen to have children and a LIFE, that just isn't pleasant.

I know people who have been unpaid (for about a year, now) and really don't want to cause the amiga community any more heartache. So they keep quiet. plus, they are busy looking for work. or working at whatever they can find. remember, kids don't stop eating just because someone doesn't pay you.

I doubt this "one" person didn't want to make a fuss for no reason. I suspect he wanted to prevent anyone else from being hurt or used.

[redrumloa]

David Gerber is being used, in typical fashion as a scapegoat for the entire issue.  The four people on that list are by far not alone in being screwed by Bill Buck when it suits him.  It's just a shame that only a few have the ability to stand up and say so.  As such, it's politically simple for Bill Buck to say "it's all the fault of one person".  Sadly, he doesn't understand that the "one person" in question is him.

It doesn't matter if he's put $5 or five million into MorphOS.  That's completely irrelevant, because he made those commitments in order to get things done.  The fact is that he's made promises he hasn't kept, and has a long list of people who've been screwed in his path, so the sole "fault" rests entirely on him.

Wayne

[Coder]

@Wayne

Very true. What I find strange is that people that still have to get money from him are on his side. Or is it just me?

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[seer]

What I find strange is that people that still have to get money from him are on his side. Or is it just me?

Certain people are very good with words, some people keep believing every lie told from 1 or several persons.

Note to blue and red trolls, that applies for both sides.

[Coder]

@redrumloa

Those are funny smileys. :-) I wonder who you are mooning here. :-P

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