Amiga Inc ALIVE! Fixed XE and good news :-)

[Orjan]

Ok, so Amiga Inc. no longer exists at all ( not even on paper ) or is it simply a subsidiary of Kmos ( in which case it would exist on paper )?

[Coder]

@Orjan

Ok, so Amiga Inc. no longer exists at all ( not even on paper ) or is it simply a subsidiary of Kmos ( in which case it would exist on paper )?

...simply a subsidiary of Kmos. If I am not mistaken.

Coder

[Orjan]

eh, amiga inc doesn't exist.
this is old news.
why is anyone even bringing up the name???

If Amiga Inc. is a subsidiary to Kmos, then the company does exist.. :-)

[ikir]

@KennyR
DO you know? Me not, so i don't speculate :-) Maybe (MAYBE) finally they are moving.

As I said, short, but not impressive. I'm more concerned with uptime and crash resistence

My A1 is 24/24 on and online :-)

[Cymric]

ikir wrote:
My A1 is 24/24 on and online :-)

That's more like it. Any idea on resistence to memory fragmentation?

[tomazkid]

My A1 is 24/24 on and online :-)

Hi Ikir!

Same here  :-)

Record uptime with the OS4-PR-Update here is 8 days and 15 hours this far  :-D

Had to boot into Linux then, otherwise it could have been longer.  :-)

[clebin]

@Cymric

"It's good to see the ole' platform moving along, but I cannot help but wonder what the use is when everything shown can already be done on at least a dozen other major platforms with a much larger user base. Oh well, logic can only take you so far."

It's simple really. Operating systems offer so many more features these days but it's still the simple ones which users need and desire most.

It was a few releases before Mac OS X was an OS that people could use full-time. In the beginning it lacked CD burning, DVD playback, printer sharing and other things. Even OS 4 has some of them!

When the Finder gets simple read & write FTP support there'll be a huge buzz - Windows and Linux folks just take it for granted.

You have to put yourself in the position of someone constantly have to work around annoying omissions. Let's say Microsoft introduce pop-up blocking into Internet Explorer. Every other browser has it, but if you're forced to use IE by your company say, you'd be punching the air.

Chris

[cecilia]

Orjan wrote:

eh, amiga inc doesn't exist.
this is old news.
why is anyone even bringing up the name???

If Amiga Inc. is a subsidiary to Kmos, then the company does exist.. :-)

Amiga Inc does not exist like it did before. (a separate company)
KMOS bought the name so they could license stuff. (to put it very simply. i ain't a lawyer)

Amiga does not exist. "it" can not make press releases, announcements, etc.

saying it does exist gives people the wrong impression.

what exists is the people manufacturing the boards and other people writing OS4 (and testing it).

and that's all that really matters.

[Cymric]

clebin wrote:
@Cymric

"It's good to see the ole' platform moving along, but I cannot help but wonder what the use is when everything shown can already be done on at least a dozen other major platforms with a much larger user base. Oh well, logic can only take you so far."

[...]

You have to put yourself in the position of someone constantly have to work around annoying omissions. Let's say Microsoft introduce pop-up blocking into Internet Explorer. Every other browser has it, but if you're forced to use IE by your company say, you'd be punching the air.

Which is precisely my point. Instead of painfully coding the utilities and tools you need, you could be using them already. To stick with your example: nobody forces you to use an Amiga---at least, I know of no company which forces its employees to use the machine. Well, save Hyperion perhaps. That is why I said that logic fails. Apparently people like to work around annoying problems all the time. I prefer to use what is available, which is a strategy which pays off when there are more users supporting a platform.

[GadgetMaster]

I see where you are coming from but I am sure you would be delighted to see the platform gain credence again.

doesn't everyone wish for the underdog to win?


Well except for the cats  

Joke :-D

[Orjan]

cecilia wrote:

Amiga does not exist. "it" can not make press releases, announcements, etc.

saying it does exist gives people the wrong impression.

what exists is the people manufacturing the boards and other people writing OS4 (and testing it).

and that's all that really matters.

A couple of years ago I worked at an Ericsson company here in Sweden, and at one point management decide to "outsource" the stuff we did there. So they closed down that company, and sold of its assets to another company, where I work today.. The Ericsson company I used to work for can´t make any press-releases and so on, since it doesn´t exist anymore , either in reality or on paper.

If we take another Swedish company, SAAB, which have been bought by General motors ( if I am not mistaking ), they can make press-releases and so on since the company still exists, but with a new parent-company.

So, the fact that Amiga Inc. has been bought by Kmos is not in doubt, however, if Amiga Inc. is a subsidiary to Kmos, then the company would still exist, but with a new parent-company. At least, thats how I thought things work.. :-)

[weirdami]

The fact is, I just prefer AmigaOS. This is the only reason people are *currently* using OS4. It is a foundation for the future, it is not in itself the future. It is only the first step on a new section of the Amiga journey.

I like AOS, too. I'm waiting to see if I can get the software I need to do things I wanna do that "can already be done on at least a dozen other major platforms with a much larger user base". Specifically, video editing software so I can start my mega awesome movie making empire. :-) I'm holding onto my money until then because right now, I can do everything else (email, text editing, etc.) on the computers at school.
 

[weirdami]

@Orjan

I remember saying it before, but AI being a subsidiary has brought it back to the way things were before. Every "Amiga" company was always a subsidiary until AI came along. Now, with KMOS, it's back to it's roots as a subsidiary. :-)

[HopperJF]

I also love AmigaOS. It is certainly more enjoyable to use than any Windows version I have come across IMHO.
People can harp on all they like about how far Amiga is behind, but for some people being a little behind in terms of features is a small price to pay for an operating system that is more fun and enjoyable to use.. and that is why Amiga users still exist strongly in 2004.

[Cymric]

@weirdami:

Do you honestly believe that that software will become available on a minor, nearly forgotten, severely underpowered and severely overpriced platform first? If your answer is yes, then so be it. I will of course question the widsom of such a decision, but if that's what you want, I can't and won't hold you back. In the meantime, can I ask you, just out of interest---as I am not into the video/film making business---what kind of systems are out there on major platforms, and whether you have evaluated them critically? What was the outcome?

@HopperJF:

Excuse me for snickering at your remark that Amiga users still exist strongly in 2004, and then seeing your sig about 'Get Firefox now!' I found the two lines of text quite contradictory :-).

As for fun to use... Perhaps you are right. But since 'fun to use' equals 'use the kind of programs I need quickly and efficiently' in my book, I have long since give up on properties such as 'character', 'uniqueness', and so forth. It might be important to some people; it isn't to me. As I said, logic can only take you so far.

weirdami wrote:
@Orjan

I remember saying it before, but AI being a subsidiary has brought it back to the way things were before. Every "Amiga" company was always a subsidiary until AI came along. Now, with KMOS, it's back to it's roots as a subsidiary. :-)

Hi-Toro wasn't a subsiduary! :-P