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Essential software?
« on: November 21, 2004, 01:25:02 AM »
Ok, I realise I might be opening a can of worms here, but what software should I get for my soon-to-be-running-again A4000/040?

System Specs:
CPU: 68040 @ 25MHz (Stock A3640 CPU board)
RAM: 2Mb Chip, 16Mb Fast
HDD: 1Gb IDE
CD-ROM: unknown speed IDE (not yet functional due to not being supported by Workbench 3.0 default install)
OS: Workbench 3.0
Kickstart: 3.0
Expansions: A2088XT Bridgeboard


There is the obvious stuff, like MUI, but what else should I get?  I do want to add the machine to the network and access the internet on it (if only to download straight to the A4K) that is assuming this is possible, and if so what software will I need.  If it is not possible to do it this way, I could always add an external modem and setup a dial-up internet connection, again, what software would I need?

Thanks in advance for answering my perhaps stupid questions.
 

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Re: Essential software?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2004, 01:30:42 AM »
Alright mate,

I would actually suggest you get yourself some 3.1 ROMS for your 4000 and a later version of the OS.
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Re: Essential software?
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2004, 01:50:40 AM »
I really worry about your new avatar Cyb.  Very.... Doomy.  :)
 

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Re: Essential software?
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2004, 04:08:35 AM »
A near stock '040 isn't going to blow your socks off, and to get on the internet you're really looking at getting a modem and the netconnect 2 or 3 software bundle.

There's other ways, but they involve spending cash, and it ends up being a money pit.  You can use a serial cable to move stuff to / from PCs, due to the file sizes involved it's not a horribly long winded thing to do.

So what do you want to get out of your Amiga? Games, internet, programming?
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Re: Essential software?
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2004, 04:34:43 AM »
You could softkick to 3.1 with Maprom.  I installed OS3.9 on my A4000 040 that way.  That would be the easiest way to get the most essential!
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Re: Essential software?
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2004, 04:55:55 AM »
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A near stock '040 isn't going to blow your socks off, and to get on the internet you're really looking at getting a modem and the netconnect 2 or 3 software bundle.

There's other ways, but they involve spending cash, and it ends up being a money pit.  You can use a serial cable to move stuff to / from PCs, due to the file sizes involved it's not a horribly long winded thing to do.

So what do you want to get out of your Amiga? Games, internet, programming?
Games, Internet, Graphics & animation (editing and creation), Emulation, and the occasional bit of programming...

Oh yeah, I forgot I've got an IDE 100Mb ZIP drive and a few ZIP disks, which I could use for data transfer, if I can get the ZIP drive to work with the A4K, or I could use the DVD burner in the PC to burn CDs, or I could install the 1Gb IDE in the PC and transfer data via WinUAE, so I doubt transferring data to and from the A4K will be a problem...
 

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Re: Essential software?
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2004, 04:56:09 AM »
@TheMaDMaN

As already mentioned, it depends on what you want to do with your Miggy. I only have my A3000 set up at the moment and all that does is play games so I don't really have all that much stuff installed on it. One piece of software that I couldn't live without is DOpus so add that to your list :-)

Edit...Doh, must have been posting at the same time :oops:
 

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Re: Essential software?
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2004, 04:59:51 AM »
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Oh yeah, I forgot I've got an IDE 100Mb ZIP drive and a few ZIP disks, which I could use for data transfer, if I can get the ZIP drive to work with the A4K, or I could use the DVD burner in the PC to burn CDs, or I could install the 1Gb IDE in the PC and transfer data via WinUAE, so I doubt transferring data to and from the A4K will be a problem...


I use a similar set up for grabbing stuff of the net, I simply have my ZIP disks set up as HDD's and mount them in WinUAE accodingly, works a treat. Only problem is that I don't have SCSI on my A1200, so transferring files to that is a real pain in the a$$, guess thats why it just sits in the cupboard now.
 

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Re: Essential software?
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2004, 05:18:13 AM »
For graphics I use ArtEffect4, web browsing AWeb 3.5 beta through Genesis (comes in OS 3.9), games with WHDLoad (bung old floppy games on the harddisk), MakeCD to record CDs and Amiga Writer of writing.  Thats about all I do really, on an A3000 with A3640, 16Mb of fast mem, Cybervision graphics card, XSurf network card.

I've built a fake Amiga using a PC that boots straight into UAE, and to be honest I use it more now.
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Re: Essential software?
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2004, 05:30:03 AM »
holley, how is your fake Amiga working? How does it boot directly?  I was thinking of doing that.
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Re: Essential software?
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2004, 06:04:56 AM »
thats a neat idea
 

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Re: Essential software?
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2004, 07:45:47 AM »
TheMaDMaN : don´t make it too difficult for yourself. Go and buy the latest CDrom 56x or so, so that speed problems won´t be caused by that thing. Of course a CDrom is not standard supported by OS 3.0, unless you use the software IdeFix. Should be possible to get this somewhere. When using a CDrom you can put as much as you want on a rewritable CD using your pc and put it into your Amiga. That´s the way I am now trying to get my A1200 tower back to life. Want internet at acceptable speed ??? Get a brandnew Xsurf II ethernet card and you will even get an additional IDE controller. Note that the standard A4000 3,5" controller also allows CDburning up to 8x but with Burn Proof technology this won´t be a problem  :lol:
If you happen to have enough money, then get yourself a scandoubler that allows to you see the Amiga on a regular PC monitor. Trust me, games look better on a 19" than on a 14"  :lol:
For more questions, just ask. There are loads of high intelligent people on this forum just killing eachother to help you first  :lol:

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Re: Essential software?
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2004, 05:07:22 AM »
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For graphics I use ArtEffect4, web browsing AWeb 3.5 beta through Genesis (comes in OS 3.9), games with WHDLoad (bung old floppy games on the harddisk), MakeCD to record CDs and Amiga Writer of writing.  Thats about all I do really, on an A3000 with A3640, 16Mb of fast mem, Cybervision graphics card, XSurf network card.

I've built a fake Amiga using a PC that boots straight into UAE, and to be honest I use it more now.
That 'fake Amiga' does sounds interesting, is it based on UAE running on a version of Linux, or on WinUAE running on top of some version of Windows?

Anyway, back to the original thread question, perhaps I wasn't specific enough.  Which hacks, utilities, datatypes, programs, etc do you find yourself using all the time on your Amiga, and would be things you would download if you had to start from a fresh Workbench install?

I've got going DirOpus 4, DPaint 5, PPaint 7, Photogenics, SnoopDOS, Iconian, Shapeshifter, MagicWB, NewIcons, MUI, ClassAct, IDEFix97 & WHDLoad, are there any other programs I should get?  And what hacks, datatypes, etc would be worth getting?
 

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Re: Essential software?
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2004, 06:11:06 AM »
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I've got going DirOpus 4, DPaint 5, PPaint 7, Photogenics, SnoopDOS, Iconian, Shapeshifter, MagicWB, NewIcons, MUI, ClassAct, IDEFix97 & WHDLoad, are there any other programs I should get? And what hacks, datatypes, etc would be worth getting?


Add also JST and XPK, I also find OctaMed 4 to be quite fun.
 

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Re: Essential software?
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2004, 02:58:35 AM »
OK, here are some utilities I'd say you MUST get - or at least give a try. These are the best I've found after much experimentation:

ABCdir - totally awesome (surprisingly underrated) file manager
Visual Prefs - for customizing total look of Workbench
LoadCMAP - to lock the WB palette so it doesn't stupidly change
DrivePrefs - stop that annoying drive click
ModePro - to promote & modify screens
SimpleFind 3 - the best file finder
DiskSalv 4 - the good disk salvage / undelete tool (hard to find)
Scout - the ultimate system monitor (get ver. 37.249)
Hex - old but good binary editor
ScreenShell - full screen shell (make a double height autoscroll screen with ModePro!)
MuchMore - super smooth scrolling text viewer
Fjpeg - fast jpeg viewer
Visage - nice, fast multi-format image viewer
v41sound.datatype - very nice sound datatype
NISClock - best title clock
PowerSnap - clip text anywhere (almost)
Voodoo-X & xadmaster - extract almost any archive
Zoom - nifty little magnifyer that works on any screen

... and there are lots more like TitleShadow, WindowToFront, Iconify, MFR, VersionWB, DoIcon, RunFromWB, Clip, ASLtoRT.