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Has anyone ever emulated a PC with the Emplant?
« on: November 10, 2004, 01:18:21 AM »
I keep reading about a 586 module, etc etc

But has anyone ever seen one, used one, or is it just vapourware?
I'd really like a Zorro solution for emulating low end PCs

No-one's got a Goldengate 486 for sale have they? :-)
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Re: Has anyone ever emulated a PC with the Emplant?
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2004, 01:34:20 AM »
  I have. Do you like watching the grass grow or paint dry? Very little compatibility and no speed. All the ads were gross propaganda and they should have been sued for the false promises! Standard fare for the Amiga market however.
 

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Re: Has anyone ever emulated a PC with the Emplant?
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2004, 01:36:42 AM »
I actually have the program.. I think it was e586 by Jim Drew of Utilities Unlimited. I was pretty basic but worked.

Here is a review on the item.. I can sell it to you if you want..

http://www.lysator.liu.se/amiga/al/guide/al102/e586.HTML

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Re: Has anyone ever emulated a PC with the Emplant?
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2004, 01:39:11 AM »
Maybe not standard fare for the Amiga market, but standard fare for the future Microcode Solutions. I have an Emplant, but x86 emulation required a new chip, which I don't think my board has.

It's possible to upgrade a Commodore 386 bridgeboard to a 486, so the GoldenGate isn't your only option.
 

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Re: Has anyone ever emulated a PC with the Emplant?
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2004, 02:05:01 AM »
  I have the 586 chip and the wished I had seen that review before I spent big $$$. The emplant was a big waste even for the Mac emulation. It may work but not as advertised. I still have mine in a 2000 with the 586 module.
 

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Re: Has anyone ever emulated a PC with the Emplant?
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2004, 08:00:24 AM »
Hi

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> It's possible to upgrade a Commodore 386 bridgeboard to a 486, ...

HOW ? Facts, links, please...

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Re: Has anyone ever emulated a PC with the Emplant?
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2004, 09:14:18 AM »
Highly unlikely as the pin layouts are totally different. You would be better off with a new board!

 

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Re: Has anyone ever emulated a PC with the Emplant?
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2004, 12:22:46 PM »
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Highly unlikely as the pin layouts are totally different. You would be better off with a new board!


Back in the day, "Overdrive" chips were quite common. They were next generation processors for old generation motherboards. There were definately Pentium 1 overdrive chips for 486 boards, and I seem to vaguely recall something similar where you could put a 486 on a 386 board. Good luck trying to find one now, though ;-)
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Re: Has anyone ever emulated a PC with the Emplant?
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2004, 12:28:52 PM »
I remeber the overdrive chips, he problem is, getting hold of an old 386 or 486 let alone an overdrive version
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Re: Has anyone ever emulated a PC with the Emplant?
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2004, 12:31:03 PM »
The problem for me is, finding a golden gate bridgeboard.

Moreover, finding a Goldengate bridgeboard that some joker doesn't want hundreds of $ for.....
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Re: Has anyone ever emulated a PC with the Emplant?
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2004, 02:00:15 PM »
Hmm..unless you need physical hardware, why not PC Task, or a similar software emulation? That's low end! Great for DOS stuff, but only so-so for Winx ops.
 

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Re: Has anyone ever emulated a PC with the Emplant?
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2004, 02:34:24 PM »
@JJ

 Here in the streets of New York, 386 and 486 and Overdrive chips are as plentifull as dirt!

 I find them in the street all the time!  I knew there might have been use for it!  I may have a few lying around!

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Re: Has anyone ever emulated a PC with the Emplant?
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2004, 09:48:04 AM »
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Hi

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> It's possible to upgrade a Commodore 386 bridgeboard to a 486, ...

HOW ? Facts, links, please...

Noster



Pretty simple actually. I sold two of these on eBay last year.

All you need to do is track down a Cyrix Cx486SRx² 25/50MHz chip


And shove it in your 386 Briodgeboard like so:


And the end result is you have a 486 SX50 bridgeboard that runs like a champ (32bit internal bus / 16bit external) and looks like this!



So... don't let anyone tell you it's impossible, because they don't know wth they are talking about.  :lol:

(I had one of these inside my A4000 back in the day along with a nice little Warp Engine -- I really wish I'd hung on to one of my 4000's but at the time $ for beer at University seemed more important).

[edit] Ya know... come to think of it, one of these was inside my 3000T, I don't think the Bridgeboard worked with my 4000's due to the limitation it put on the Zorro slots which blocked my Warp Engine's RAM from showing up. From memory the BridgeBoard put a limitation of 6MB to zorro slot expansions. [/edit]

If you REALLY want to find old chips like this, you need to talk to recycling plants such as Kin-Enterprises who could possibly start pulling old 486 and overdrive chips off motherboards before they heat and shred them. I'll ask a local PCB recycler here if they can keep an eye out for me if you guys are seriously interested in finding a few 486 overdrive chips for 386 computers.
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Re: Has anyone ever emulated a PC with the Emplant?
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2004, 11:12:53 AM »
@CatHerder : This is what I refer to as: Cool Computer Stuff :-D :-D :-D amazing... excellent...
 

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Re: Has anyone ever emulated a PC with the Emplant?
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2004, 12:22:39 PM »
I've been proven wrong. I was only thinking about Intel chips and completely forgot about Overdrive and Citrix chips. Sorry. Good luck with project!