argh, help me decide. :)

[Desolator]

So it's time to upgrade a computer... but I can not decide on which one I should upgrade first, my PC or my A1200.

I can spend 300$ and I can choose between this:
A 1,8 or 2.5 ghz AMD processor and motherboard for my PC...got a P450 so that would be a nice speedchange.

Or I can buy this:

A1200 desktop with Blizzard 1230-III@50Mhz + FPU/MMU 68882@50 Mhz, 16MB fastmem,SCSI-Kit III
External 5,25" cabinet, Seagate 4.2GB SCSI disk, 24X SCSI-cdrom,121 Mb 2,5" HD with OS 3.5 installed.

Probably will be the Amiga but is all that worth 300$ or is that too expensive or too cheap?  :-D

I have more fun with my Amigas but the PC need that darned upgrade for games. :\

Best guess?  Buy what gets you what you want to do.  That's the best advice anyone can ever offer.

I personally would never spend $300 USD on *any* classic Amiga unless I knew I could turn around and resell it on eBay to turn a profit.

Then again, you may actually have a use for one, where I have none.

[Paul_Gadd]

Upgrading the x86 is definitely worth it and would be better value to the user than a expensive slow 030 machine,

Ask yourself will you need the power or not.

[The_Editor]

Forget upgrading your A1200.

A1 & Aos 4 should be out next month... Get that (or Peggie)

I have been tempted by nForce 2 chipset MoBo's & >2ghz Athlons etc lately as well !!  I'm gonna wait until the "IDE'S of March" are through... No A1 then...

No ME !!   :-o

[Bezzen]

I'd buy the Amiga for that price (if I had the money to spare)... but then I've got a PC that's working ok for my needs already

I think it will be hard to find it cheaper than that in Sweden. And that system would cost like $100 for just shipping if you buy it from abroad.

[Desolator]

Yup, it's the cheapest one I've seen in sweden and is sold in a city just a few miles from mine so there is no shipping cost whatsoever...but then again, being able to play Morrowind wouldn't be bad either but that could wait another month... *really hard to decide*

And while I'm at it, what does the Mediator offer? PCI card support I know of, but I read in an AmigaActive (the issue before they went Digital.) that one could buy a TV card and watch TV on the workbench and plug in a gameconsole and play that too on a window. Anyone tried that?

[MarkTime]

but but but, that Amiga can't actually *DO* much....

its been five years ago now, but I spent a HUGE amount getting the 060/50 accelerator, only to find out the machine was still too slow, only now the AGA chip was the bottleneck.

That was 5 years ago...I shudder at the thought of using AGA today......

and an 030???

You must have a PCI or AGP graphics card, PPC chip at a minimum, and doing that on a classic amiga is possible, but still wayyyyyy to expensive.

I wouldn't buy that amiga, unless it was near free.

[Desolator]

Seems like it's going to be a PC upgrade after all...  guess the trouble deciding what to get is that I only own unexpanded A1200's and always wanted an upgraded one. (mmmm, having Os3.9 running natively without an emulator would be sooo nice...) But as you people say, that would be very expensive and money isn't something I get a lot of.

[Paul_Gadd]

Get Amithlon and UAE and run Amiga software fast as hell without paying silly amounts of money for so little.

[ple3003]

Yesterday, I ordered an xp2600 (the xp2400 are a far more economical choice, but what the hell ... :-D ) with a epox nforce2 mobo to go with 2 sticks of 256mb cas2 2700 memory. It all ended up @4800 SEK (would have been 3800 if i'd bought the xp2400).
I'll buy my peggie when it gets shipped in larger quantities, but as for now it seems to take forever... So until then ->
And about morrowind - it is fully playable on a xp1600 with 256mb RAM and a Radeon 8500. And that can be done with way under 300 dollares.

[ple3003]

Get Amithlon and UAE and run Amiga software fast as hell without paying silly amounts of money for so little.

Yeah, but use BeOS, Linux or whatever when surfing the web. Windows is a lot like a "window" (hehe) which opens up automagically to all whos interested in your computer. Cannot belive the amounts of crap i deleted from doing nothing special, just surfing today. ActiveX, popups, Security holes - gaaaaaaahaaaahhhhhh..

[mikeymike]

PC processor temperatures have been getting silly for quite a while.  I'd be inclined to wait for a Intel CPU core change or the AMD Hammer/Opteron (whichever is their 64-bit architecture change move).   Otherwise you'll be spending significant amounts of money cooling and keeping the PC quiet, which believe me, is irritating :-)

That Amiga spec, at least for my 'primary computer' requirements needs a processor upgrade, an 060 or better would start to meet my requirements.  My 040/40MHz accelerator doesn't, particularly with MP3 playback, although that's not just the CPU, but audio hardware that's the problem there.

Do you use your PC or Amiga primarily?  Is there a game or set of games you desperately want to play, or is your Amiga just a machine you like to play around with occasionally?
 
(If I had to guess the rest of your PC spec, I'd say to get decent games performance you'd have to spend a good deal more than $300, but I don't know american prices that well.  If it were 300 UKP it wouldn't be enough, IMO)

[machinehead]

Well, I have to say that if you can spare the jack (money) do both.
I am still in the process of upgrading my A1200 and fully intend to get a C1.
I want to get an A500+ so I can upgrade that too!
If speed is what you NEED use a Windows box. They are up to 3.0 GIGA hertz!
I don't care what anyone says. Windows is not so bad. My compaq has never let me down, other than a crapped out HD.
If you have the moola (money) to do so, start a hobby and upgrade some old stuff. It's fun.
No, you will not make a profit on ANY computer you buy. Once bought, it's value plummets faster than a Falcon at full dive.
I used to build and sell computers (386, 486, P1) I got out of this business when I realised that I was more or less breaking even.
Do it for the LOVE! This is one great hobby and a great bunch of people to be around.
I can't understand why everyone has to "Bail out" of Amiga. SO WHAT if it's old. So is the C64 and it's still got a following.
This is not life or death, fer crissake! It's only computers you're talking about.
I like to LOOK at my Amiga, I love to take the cover off and see all the upgrades I've put into it.
It's fun to solve problems on a nearly forgotten piece of hardware.
Do it for yourself!
"And she'll have fun-fun-fun till her daddy takes her 'miggy away!!"

[Crumb]

The Amiga seems to be expensive for me... I think you can get an Amiga4040/25 with rom 3.1 and buster 11 for that price, just search... I sold mine for a little less some time ago (to buy my actual Amiga 4060T which btw was quite cheap too). I don't like A1200s much... it's ok if you don't plan to expand it, but an A4000 is way better.

[Bezzen]

I think you can get an Amiga4040/25 with rom 3.1 and buster 11 for that price, just search

Probably not in Sweden though. I've never actually seen an unexpanded A4000/030 for sale for anything less than $500 over here.  :-(