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Recommend a MIDI tool!
« on: October 02, 2004, 08:20:40 PM »
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Re: Recommend a MIDI tool!
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2004, 12:29:25 PM »
:bump:

Anybody?
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Re: Recommend a MIDI tool!
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2004, 04:06:52 PM »
Not at all what I was looking for, but still very cool!

MidiIn aminet

A MIDI triggered 16-bit sample player (14-bit output via paula). Played with it a tad last night and it's very good. Fully assignable, no sample size limit (depending on your memory), up to 32-note polyphony (16 channels at 48kHz seems fine on my 040), supports velocity, pan, pitchbend, aftertouch etc.

I'm amazed I never knew this software existed until last night :lol:
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Re: Recommend a MIDI tool!
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2004, 05:09:27 PM »
Hmm.. .maybe this program will do the trick?
I haven't been able to test it myself, since i would love to more with my Juno 106 :P

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Re: Recommend a MIDI tool!
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2004, 05:50:54 PM »
Looks nice, doesn't it?

Unfortunately (to borrow a quote from KennyR), I speak German like a native. A native brit, that is :-D

I don't really require a sequencer. All I need is a tool that can simply (in realtime) reformat midi data based on some settings I specify (remap channels, note assigns etc.): non-standard MIDI data goes in, GM compatible data comes out.

I downloaded the midi.library developer info. It looks like it has exactly the sort of IO implementation I need for this. Im thinking to write a very simple tool that will just load a configuration file that specifies the required remapping.
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Re: Recommend a MIDI tool!
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2004, 07:52:03 PM »
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Karlos wrote:
Not at all what I was looking for, but still very cool!

MidiIn aminet

A MIDI triggered 16-bit sample player (14-bit output via paula). Played with it a tad last night and it's very good. Fully assignable, no sample size limit (depending on your memory), up to 32-note polyphony (16 channels at 48kHz seems fine on my 040), supports velocity, pan, pitchbend, aftertouch etc.

I'm amazed I never knew this software existed until last night :lol:


Kool & The Gang. I'll probably download it anyway but do you know if it works on MOS/AOS4?

PS. Sorry I can't help with the original request.

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Re: Recommend a MIDI tool!
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2004, 09:16:25 PM »
Hi Wilse,

Well, the downloadable version does not support AHI so you need a Paula. An AHI capable version is said to be in development, but the actual tool is quite old so I don't know if it is still in development or not.

I don't think the downloadable version will work on either Pegasos or AOne purely because

1) it uses Paula for audio
2) it uses midi.library which may possibly bang the serial port (not sure).

Worked on OS4 on the BPPC, however ;-) (well, I didn't exactly test it fully, but it didn't crash)

If you have an old A1200 with a moderate CPU (030/50MHz) and some RAM you can get a lot of fun out of it anyway.

My present mad plan is to use my spare 1200D (040+16MB) to run soundstudio which in turn will drive my my MU100R, possibly my PSS680 (cool/weird retro FM sounds) and my main 1200T as a sampler (which thanks to RTG will do 48kHz no problem and has 256MB of memory spare). Both the 1200T and old keyboard output can be fed into the MU100 and processed with the internal effects bus.

Now all I need is a second midi interface for the 1200D :-)
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Re: Recommend a MIDI tool!
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2004, 07:02:36 PM »
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Hi Wilse,

Well, the downloadable version does not support AHI so you need a Paula. An AHI capable version is said to be in development, but the actual tool is quite old so I don't know if it is still in development or not.

I don't think the downloadable version will work on either Pegasos or AOne purely because

1) it uses Paula for audio


Bugger. :-(

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2) it uses midi.library which may possibly bang the serial port (not sure).


I think you're right.

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Worked on OS4 on the BPPC, however ;-) (well, I didn't exactly test it fully, but it didn't crash)


That's interesting. How did you get OS4 on BPPC?
Betatester?
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If you have an old A1200 with a moderate CPU (030/50MHz) and some RAM you can get a lot of fun out of it anyway.

My main A1200 has 030/25MHz and 16meg RAM.
The guy I write with just told me today he's written a new song and he'll be here any minute, so I'll be firing up OctaMED on it.
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My present mad plan is to use my spare 1200D (040+16MB) to run soundstudio which in turn will drive my my MU100R, possibly my PSS680 (cool/weird retro FM sounds) and my main 1200T as a sampler (which thanks to RTG will do 48kHz no problem and has 256MB of memory spare). Both the 1200T and old keyboard output can be fed into the MU100 and processed with the internal effects bus.

Now all I need is a second midi interface for the 1200D :-)


Sounds good.
Keep us posted with how you get on.

All the best,

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Re: Recommend a MIDI tool!
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2004, 10:59:46 PM »
@Wilse

Yep, I',m betatester for OS4 (on BPPC). Alas in the last few months I haven't had much in the way of time to myself to enjoy it :-(

From what I can see, your 030/25MHz should manage 28kHz playback (assuming you have no way of using >28kHz) for quite a few notes polyphony at least.

I hope there is a newer (read AHI) version in the works. A PPC native version for OS4/MOS would be cool - you could probably employ full interpolation then :-)

As for my original problem, I found the midi.library developer stuff (it looks nice and simple for what I need, which was the clincher, really). It sure is old, though. It needs updating with the current style proto headers and stuff which I am just having a look into. I should use CAMD really, but it is such a quirky one off that I can't be bothered :-D
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Re: Recommend a MIDI tool!
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2004, 11:12:19 PM »
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Karlos wrote:
Not at all what I was looking for, but still very cool!

MidiIn aminet

A MIDI triggered 16-bit sample player (14-bit output via paula). Played with it a tad last night and it's very good. Fully assignable, no sample size limit (depending on your memory), up to 32-note polyphony (16 channels at 48kHz seems fine on my 040), supports velocity, pan, pitchbend, aftertouch etc.

I'm amazed I never knew this software existed until last night :lol:


Hooooooo, that is good! I might even use it at a gig... did I really need to buy an Edirol FA-101 after all? ;-)

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Re: Recommend a MIDI tool!
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2004, 11:40:19 PM »
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Show off :-P

I mean I was amazed there was any kind of midi triggered sampling software (especially 16-bit capable) running on a basic amiga that I didn't know about :-)

The authors of the software did actually use it in gigs, apparently. So nerr!


The thing is, I can spend ages modifying filters, LoFi etc for samples to grunge them up on real hardware or use Paula. The latter just has pure class to it.
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Re: Recommend a MIDI tool!
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2004, 01:21:12 PM »
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Show off :-P

I mean I was amazed there was any kind of midi triggered sampling software (especially 16-bit capable) running on a basic amiga that I didn't know about :-)

The authors of the software did actually use it in gigs, apparently. So nerr!


The thing is, I can spend ages modifying filters, LoFi etc for samples to grunge them up on real hardware or use Paula. The latter just has pure class to it.


I'm not sure if I want to Gig with Amigas again... but certainly will find use in the studio, I love the sound of Paula with her nonlinear DACs and weird frequency table.

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Re: Recommend a MIDI tool!
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2004, 07:04:27 PM »
@Karlos:

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Yep, I',m betatester for OS4 (on BPPC).


You lucky, lucky...... I've bin 'ere five years an' they only 'ung me the right way up yesterday. :-D

I'll hopefully make some time to check out the prog. later.


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Re: Recommend a MIDI tool!
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2004, 07:07:17 PM »
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I'm not sure if I want to Gig with Amigas again...


Oh aye? Nasty past experience?

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Re: Recommend a MIDI tool!
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2004, 08:14:46 PM »
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I'm not sure if I want to Gig with Amigas again...


Oh aye? Nasty past experience?


Oh no, nothing major! I had a sequencer crash once... maybe twice (but that happens to any sequencer). No, I just don't want to subject my Amiga's to the harsh stage environment, it was ok 7 years ago, but they are old now. Also I've been scaling back as much hardware as possible... I now only need my Laptop and my Edirol FA-101, the Laptop runs all my soft synths which I can midi up to the 4 stage keyboards we use and it can also do some sequencing.

But if you lot promise to come to a gig, I might be convinced to use an Amiga on stage again :-)