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Agressive US investments.
« on: September 30, 2004, 05:01:14 PM »
This isn't posted in the political forum, so please don't post political crap here.

What do you fellow Americans feel is the the best bet in aggresive investments for the next ~5 years? I mean in the 1k to 100K range.

Real Estate?
Real Estate is HOT in most parts of FL, but I don't think I'd call it aggresive. Stable but not aggresive.

Stocks?
If so, what type? Technology? Foreign?

Buying out existing or starting new company?
What market is the hottest, with the best margins?

I'm interested in your feedback:-)
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Re: Agressive US investments.
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2004, 05:31:14 PM »
I'm no American, but the russian economy seems a good bet for stocks.
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Re: Agressive US investments.
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2004, 10:27:39 PM »
(me listens in)  :-)

I don't know. I'm afraid of all non-real estate investments nowdays.
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Re: Agressive US investments.
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2004, 10:41:44 PM »
Hum,

i hear that nanotechnology is going to be big...

But in , 20- 40 years, watch out for the collapse of the developed world due to shortages of raw materials and energy.


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Re: Agressive US investments.
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2004, 10:50:46 PM »
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redrumloa wrote:
This isn't posted in the political forum, so please don't post political crap here.

What do you fellow Americans feel is the the best bet in aggresive investments for the next ~5 years? I mean in the 1k to 100K range.

Real Estate?
Real Estate is HOT in most parts of FL, but I don't think I'd call it aggresive. Stable but not aggresive.

Yeah, real estate. Buy high, sell low. That's the way to make money!!

I wouldn't trust real estate right now. It's a bubble and the high prices are based on low interest rates. When the rates go up, ... pop. Forclosures.. THAT's when you want to be buying!!
 

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Re: Agressive US investments.
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2004, 12:32:13 AM »
Aggresive investments.
Defence industry. :lol:
Thats only partly a joke, everybody(except sweden:-P) seems to be throwing taxmoney that way so why not get some of it back?
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Re: Agressive US investments.
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2004, 12:49:25 AM »
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I don't know. I'm afraid of all non-real estate investments nowdays.

Buy land it´s not being made anymore!
You can´t eat money but you sure can live off the land!

If you want to have a safe pension-investment plant trees.
These days the timber and paper companies are calling us, about every twoweeks pratically begging us to sell pulpwood.
It´s something about the chinese and water closets :-P

But as fluffy said about the intrest rate now is not the time to buy.


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Re: Agressive US investments.
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2004, 01:48:42 AM »
@Red

I'm not an American, but my advice: look to China. Their economy is moving incredibly quickly.
 

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Re: Agressive US investments.
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2004, 02:23:32 AM »
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I'm no American, but the russian economy seems a good bet for stocks.
hm, naah, too much corruption and mafia.
I'd prefer Estonia, Latvia and lithuania to invest in.
These seem to be quite thriving.
China is also quite interesting atm.
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Re: Agressive US investments.
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2004, 02:30:21 AM »
I know I'm not American, but look for areas which have experienced a growth in value (real-estate) over the past 10 or so years.

Then use a buy-and-hold stratagy.

Visit propertyinvesting.com (It's not American either, but there may be some good advice on there)

 

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Re: Agressive US investments.
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2004, 06:31:09 AM »
Debt, I know I know its morally dubious, but yes, debt, a garunteed return on your investment (though the timeframe is variable depending on what countries debt you buy into) typically from what I've read, you'll make about 40% on whatever you put in.

American Debt atm looks to be a good place to start, since theres a lot of it and a reletively stable system of governance in place to garuntee a return.

Dunno however how you'd get in touch with a debt trader though.
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Re: Agressive US investments.
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2004, 07:04:17 AM »
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Debt, I know I know its morally dubious, but yes, debt, a garunteed return on your investment (though the timeframe is variable depending on what countries debt you buy into) typically from what I've read, you'll make about 40% on whatever you put in.

American Debt atm looks to be a good place to start, since theres a lot of it and a reletively stable system of governance in place to garuntee a return.

Dunno however how you'd get in touch with a debt trader though.


Bwahahahahaha!

Untill we start our "revolution" and declare ourselves a new and independant country, irresponsible for the debts of the former USA.

I wonder how that would work actually, if hypothetically, North Carolina removes itself from the Union, can we claim no responsibility for federal debt?

hmmmm....
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Re: Agressive US investments.
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2004, 02:13:47 PM »
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I wonder how that would work actually, if hypothetically, North Carolina removes itself from the Union, can we claim no responsibility for federal debt?

hmmmm....
No, since it's the UNITED States...
United means your state officially take part of it, AND is likewise any other state responsible for the debt.
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Re: Agressive US investments.
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2004, 04:56:19 PM »
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I wonder how that would work actually, if hypothetically, North Carolina removes itself from the Union, can we claim no responsibility for federal debt?

hmmmm....
No, since it's the UNITED States...
United means your state officially take part of it, AND is likewise any other state responsible for the debt.


In case you missed it, the premise was that a state *removed* itself from the union.

The federal defecit is the responsibility of the federal government, not the states. The federal government doesn't collect revenue from the states, the federal government collects it's taxes directly, not touching the state tax at all.

The Constitution allows the federal government to tax it's citizens, but no provision has ever been made in the Constitution to tax *former* citizens above and beyond any taxes previously due. Currently the government has no athority to impose debt on former citizens assuming they owe no back taxes. I believe the Union would have to eat the loss.

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Re: Agressive US investments.
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2004, 05:03:38 PM »
States rights are a joke. The federal gov is too big. We need another Regan.

Ooops this is becoming political.

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