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Re: Worst Amiga
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2004, 05:22:44 AM »
I'd have to say the CDTV, as it was not much more than an A500 in a desktop with an integrated CD-ROM. Most of what it can do can be done by expanding an A500.

I think the Fat Agnus - display controller that it came with should have at least been an AGA. Perhaps throwing an A1200 in the same box would have made the CDTV a better hit.

Certainly an interesting machine, but I think it was released a little late (1991).
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Re: Worst Amiga
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2004, 06:24:54 AM »
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Do you have that wireless card actually working with your Amiga? is it online wirelessly with that card?

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Re: Worst Amiga's EVER!
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2004, 06:31:01 AM »
A500+: You couldn't expand it with normal A500-expansions, and It had incompatability issues.

The A600 wasn't great, but it sure kept me running.
I had one with 270 Mb hard drive, 2 Mb chip-RAM, 4 Mb fast RAM, and OS 3.1.
I was so happy about it, that I bough another one when it broke. Unfortunately, the new machine only had OS 2.04 and was never put to very much use. :-(
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Re: Worst Amiga's EVER!
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2004, 06:47:48 AM »
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A500+: You couldn't expand it with normal A500-expansions
Yes, you could!
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and It had incompatability issues.
No, it didn't!



BTW the A1200 was crap! The A 4000 T was a much better machine.
 

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Re: Worst Amiga's EVER!
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2004, 07:04:45 AM »
I agree with: that the A600 was crap, it was hard to expand had an crap keyboard and it seemed like at gameing console in a wierd way
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Re: Worst Amiga's EVER!
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2004, 07:24:37 AM »
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I agree with: that the A600 was crap, it was hard to expand had an crap keyboard and it seemed like at gameing console in a wierd way


Wasn't the A600 supposed to compete with the NES? A console with a keyboard?

Anyway I think it is a cool machine. It has surface mounted devices allowing its form factor. It has an intergrated harddisk controller. And it has PCMCIA. How can you say it was a step back.

I have three miggy's at home. An A500, A600 and A1200.

What a use most:
1. A1200
2. A600
3. A500

Maybe thats a better crap indicator. The last being the crappiest

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Re: Worst Amiga's EVER!
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2004, 07:51:41 AM »
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iamaboringperson wrote:
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A500+: You couldn't expand it with normal A500-expansions
Yes, you could!
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and It had incompatability issues.
No, it didn't!



BTW the A1200 was crap! The A 4000 T was a much better machine.


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You're starting to sound like the doommaster!

I guess in its day the A1200 was a machine I desired whereas the A4000T was way beyond my budget. Both are great machines but it's like comparing your bicycle to my LearJet.

The A500+ did have a lot of the OS2.x, no FAST ram (for the early 1Mb software) and 1 meg chip incompatibilities the A600 did - (though I'm pretty sure you could use most of the same A500 peripherals with it)  I know this cos a lot of my favorite games died when I upgraded to 1meg chip to run Dpaint5
 

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Re: Worst Amiga's EVER!
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2004, 08:25:56 AM »
WALKER, of course  :-o
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Re: Worst Amiga's EVER!
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2004, 08:47:24 AM »
The Amiga 600 has to be the ugly's Amiga ever of couse of walker did get released then it would of got this great title instead.

Also the 600 never made any sence from business view point
1) It cost more then A500 & A500+ to produce.
2) It never sold that well until commodore did heavy price cutting.
3) Everone knew A1200 was going to be release soon with AGA.
 

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Re: Worst Amiga's EVER!
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2004, 08:50:12 AM »
This is a toughie. You have to take in consideration the different generations of the Amiga, ofcourse, and put them in the timeframe they belong in.

I like the A1200 and A2000 most. Both of them are easy to expand and pretty robust. I still consider the A3000 to be some kind of the 'perfect' Amiga.

The A1000 and A4000 are, imo, the worst. Both were rushed to completion and are not what they were supposed to be. Although they were about the best of their kind at the time being, they had to much designflaws. Technically, the A500 was much more what the A1000 should have been.

The CDTV was a great idea, but suffered from several (minor) design flaws (the use of a caddy and a terribly designed remote control, 'only' an A500 without any further expansion). It suffered even more from the terrible marketing, though...

So, imo, the worst Amiga:
1- A4000
2- A1000 (but VERY desirable as being THE Classic!)
3- CDTV

That doesnt't mean I'm going to turn down someone offering me one of the above for free. :-)
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Re: Worst Amiga's EVER!
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2004, 08:57:18 AM »
@Iama

Agreed on the A600, I remember seeing one back in 1992 and thinking "Huh?".  It was a step back from the A500, yet was priced at an extra £100, despite it's obvious place as a junior Amiga.  

Another Commodore "Doh!" moment.

Next up is the CDTV.  It was an opportunity wasted, thanks to it's relatively high price (an extra £250 IIRC over the A500) for a CD ROM drive, no keyboard and that awful CD carrier thingy that you had to eject, fit a disc into and then replace in the CDROM drive.

Personal favs are the A500 (it introduced me to the Amiga, along with however many million others), the A1200 (so expandable for a twelve year old design, you don't see Macs or PCs of that vintage with similar longevity do you?) and the A3000 because whoever designed it thought of everything...
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Re: Worst Amiga's EVER!
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2004, 09:00:27 AM »
The oldest Amiga I own is the A500 and A500+. The latest Amigas I have and will ever own are my A1200s. I would not list either of this models as worst in any way.  
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Re: Worst Amiga's EVER!
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2004, 09:41:11 AM »
i've not had the pleasure of owning an A600, but there are alot of people out there with them tweeked and chipped up with all kinds of addons that wern't thought possible. i like its small form, but hate its "i'm an A500 in a different case" thing going on. when it was released so long after the A500. i mean surely they could have done something with it? i mean the A3000 was the only 32bit incarnation of the ECS chipset. surely that could have gone in there? onboard 020 for the 600, 030 for the 1200, couple of simm slots in each..

other than that, i've owned every machine except the A1000 and 3000 series which i would consider to be the best designed, most thought out, and properly done machine of the entire Amiga line.

its a real shame about the A4000/AGA series though. it could have been so much more. the R&D guys were playing about with DSP sound chips, the AAA chip set, a processor beyond the 68k series, blah blah blah. it was supposed to be released with 31khz video out (amber), scsi and IDE, 16bit audio via DSP with paula emulation, the good ol' 8Mb chip ram ;) etc. etc. ....

and the actual build quality of the A4000D machines themselves? the front didn't fit properly, the power switch on the front was a long plastic stick that went to the power supply switch, the PSU fans were crap, scratched/bleeding knuckles from fitting CPU boards, Zorro daughterboard not lining up with the case leading to occasionally worryingly bent zorro cards... the list goes on... but fair play for making it a fairly small form desktop machine though.

but anyway, damn you commodore! you could have been so much more!... other than seemingly being a tax avoidence scheme....

whats the topic of this thread again? i seem to have lost it somewhere....  :lol:

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Re: Worst Amiga's EVER!
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2004, 11:21:48 AM »
I had two different A500s, a B2000, an A600, an A1200 and an A4000T.

I hated the A600.

I tried to like it, I thought I would be able to get by with that keyboard but I couldn't.
That A600 lasted a few weeks. Then it was outta there!!

The first box Amiga I saw was the A1000 and I wanted that. I don't think a Kickstart disk would have got me down.

So yes, I think the worst one is the A600.
And probably the best all-rounder in terms of price vs performance is the A1200. If I ever get tired of lugging this A4kT around, I will go back to the A1200.
 

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Re: Worst Amiga's EVER!
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2004, 11:30:47 AM »
What is this for a crap thread? :-x

there is no such a thing as a bad Amiga
Every single model released by Commodore (and pre-Commodore)
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Re: Worst Amiga's EVER!
« Reply #29 from previous page: September 30, 2004, 11:33:27 AM »
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
What is this for a crap thread? :-x

there is no such a thing as a bad Amiga
Every singel model released by Commodore (and pre-Commodore)
[color=FF0000]ROCKED BIG TIME[/color]


:-D Correct Speel. But the worst model of Amiga is the 500+. But rumor has it that this was not built by "Commodore" :sealed:
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