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XP SP2 I just went and had to try it, sigh...
« on: September 21, 2004, 03:50:15 AM »
OK I have scoured a few XP forums, and checked out micro-boft's sites and have not seen evidence of my seemingly unique side effect of having installed SP2.

The actual SP2 installation went well, and has not caused any real problems gaming, emulation, or Internet connections, aside from a noticeable increase to boot time (…yet).

I use Visual Studio C++. NET (Version 2002) patched with the latest security jpeg buffer overun fix, and have found that when running my SDI apps, with custom created fonts, the document is now displayed in a ‘zoomed out’ state(similar to a print pre-view), rendering the smaller fonts too small to be read easily.

Why do I ask the Amiga community for help on this you ask? Because I have found the Amiga users are extremely knowledgeable, and seem to have a genuine desire to help. They also seem to have the funniest wise ass comments that help lower the increased blood pressure resulting from XP ‘exasperation…  


I was able to successfully restore to the Pre-SP2 install, and everything is back to normal.

Anyone else see strange effects from this SP similar to this?

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Re: XP SP2 I just went and had to try it, sigh...
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2004, 04:06:56 AM »
Did the problems happen after SP2 or after the .NET Framework 1.0 SP3 upgrade?  Have you tested your apps on other SP2 machines?  (I can test if you want...)

Time to move on.  Bye Amiga.org.  :(
 

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Re: XP SP2 I just went and had to try it, sigh...
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2004, 04:28:15 AM »
That's the million dollar question, as I installed both prior to to testing the app unfortunately. I suppose I have to re-install again to be sure.

I appreciate you offer to test the app for me. If you wish to pmail me an email address I can send it to you. (It is quite small approx 350 kb).
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Re: XP SP2 I just went and had to try it, sigh...
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2004, 04:33:37 AM »
Not sure if its the service pack....But I have another issue with SP2.........

Before I was able to make 216fps on a shooter test....Now it does 176fps a second........... after I installed SP2... So i am not sure if its SP2 that made it extra slow, or what exactly is slowing the system down.
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Re: XP SP2 I just went and had to try it, sigh...
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2004, 04:41:50 AM »
One thing I would suggest after the SP2 upgrade is to update all your drivers or at least one that maybe related to any issue you have after the install. My printer stopped talking to my computer properly afterward. I also has a few networking issues.
 

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Re: XP SP2 I just went and had to try it, sigh...
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2004, 05:00:11 AM »
hum,
sp2 is so new that there is a  lot a teething problems ...

(not on my computer, though)

@jjans

i don`t use those programs so i cant help you out with any hacks,
but have you tried this forum...

but i think that its a case of waiting for MS to patch that bug...




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Re: XP SP2 I just went and had to try it, sigh...
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2004, 05:07:37 AM »
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blobrana wrote:
hum,
sp2 is so new that there is a  lot a teething problems ...

(not on my computer, though)

@jjans

i don`t use those programs so i cant help you out with any hacks,
but have you tried this forum...

but i think that its a case of waiting for MS to patch that bug...





Thanks for the link to the forum. I'll give it a read.
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Re: XP SP2 I just went and had to try it, sigh...
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2004, 07:41:19 AM »
@kd7ota

Try 3Dmark 2k3...

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Re: XP SP2 I just went and had to try it, sigh...
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2004, 07:50:51 AM »
You may also like to check out Pronetworks  

Just wait till you see the post counts of some people there...
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Re: XP SP2 I just went and had to try it, sigh...
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2004, 07:57:45 AM »
hello my name is bill gates.
im rrrriiich and faaamouse i like to be stupid and make
crap things.

well at the moment i am working on windows media centre.
it's gonna be rrrrrrrre3aaaeaeasdal crap.
but it will make eevn more loaded. and i will own the whole
world!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHAHHEHEHAHAHAHAHAEHEHAHAE
\
and please come to turkey to visit me.


hmmmm yes and on the more serious side while i was writing this explorer crashed.
and yes i wasnt even using it. im useing firefox 1.0.
so thats a laugh and a half.

see you in space we can all wear cool space suits.
and use macs.
 

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Re: XP SP2 I just went and had to try it, sigh...
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2004, 08:13:29 AM »
Quote

mikrucio wrote:
hello my name is bill gates.
im rrrriiich and faaamouse i like to be stupid and make
crap things.

well at the moment i am working on windows media centre.
it's gonna be rrrrrrrre3aaaeaeasdal crap.
but it will make eevn more loaded. and i will own the whole
world!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHAHHEHEHAHAHAHAHAEHEHAHAE
\
and please come to turkey to visit me.


hmmmm yes and on the more serious side while i was writing this explorer crashed.
and yes i wasnt even using it. im useing firefox 1.0.
so thats a laugh and a half.

see you in space we can all wear cool space suits.
and use macs.


Are you five years old?
 

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Re: XP SP2 I just went and had to try it, sigh...
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2004, 08:20:45 AM »
No problems whatsoever with SP2 for me.
For people that are having issues, it's well known that 95% of SP2 problems are caused by the new Windows Firewall, which needs to be configured for a lot of older programs to work. Software developers have had about 6 months notice from Microsoft about the effects of SP2, and the majority have done nothing, or are only just sending out updates when it's too late (*cough* Symantec *cough*). If you install SP2, update all of your drivers and download the latest versions of all your software.

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Re: XP SP2 I just went and had to try it, sigh...
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2004, 08:20:59 AM »
I installed SP2, everything went fine, but upon reboot I got the message 'Explorer has encountered a problem and needs to close".
Happened on every boot. Then all I had was my lovely backdrop to look at, couldn't do anything. I had to go in via the Task manager and RUN the add/remove programs, because I couldn't even relaunch explorer from there.
I don't have as much patience with the PC as with the Amiga, so I ditched SP2.
 

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Re: XP SP2 I just went and had to try it, sigh...
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2004, 10:01:20 AM »
After all the problems I had with Windows 2000 SP3, I've become very wary of all these sweeping patches.  I download most critical updates, but tend to wait a few months before messing with service packs.

I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of known bugs will be in Longhorn...

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For people that are having issues, it's well known that 95% of SP2 problems are caused by the new Windows Firewall, which needs to be configured for a lot of older programs to work. Software developers have had about 6 months notice from Microsoft about the effects of SP2, and the majority have done nothing, or are only just sending out updates when it's too late (*cough* Symantec *cough*). If you install SP2, update all of your drivers and download the latest versions of all your software.

I have mixed feelings about stuff like this.  On one hand, programmers tend to do all kinds of stupid things, many of which are easy to fix if they can spare more than a few hours out of their busy schedules.  I can't tell you how many bugs can easily be fixed in a few minutes (*cough* Firefox *cough), but they would rather add some brand new feature that takes hundreds of hours of development to make.

On the other hand, it's bad practice to change your programming interfaces so damn often.  I was really annoyed when Microsoft introduced the new PnP manager in Win98 (as a critical update, not in Win98se).  Almost half the devices we sold to our customers refused to work with this "new" version of Win98.  We had a lot of returns, that's for sure!
 

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Re: XP SP2 I just went and had to try it, sigh...
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2004, 09:04:58 PM »
@StevenJGore

Yeah,
you can tweak/disable those pesky sp2 firewalls...

Have you tried xp-AntiSpy V3.83 is a little utility that let's you disable some built-in update and authetication 'features' in WindowsXP.     (only 39kb! )

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