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Re: V.I.C. Released!
« Reply #14 from previous page: February 10, 2003, 01:37:17 PM »
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if he's a genius whats his claim to fame? was he a big C= guy or what?....I dont know anything about the dude.
and why could he be insane?...
Try reading through some of the stuff on his website. IMO, most people would wind up mad before they ever understood it.
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Re: V.I.C. Released!
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2003, 01:59:29 PM »
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if he's a genius whats his claim to fame?


His claim to fame?V.I.C. Well some might same infamous instead of famous.

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I dont know anything about the dude.


Wow you must have never read any C.S.A.* newsgroups over the years!! Heck he is even a regular of ANN and MooBunny.

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and why could he be insane?...


Go to the website and read up on the VIC. Then read some of the CSAM archives. You will see what I mean.
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Re: V.I.C. Released!
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2003, 02:51:49 PM »
@DaveP

Yes he does indeed have good ideas, usually good ideas that other people had 10 years ago.

The fact that he, may, have come up with them independently, shows some intelligence.  But the fact that he doesn't understand that other intelligent people have thought about the same idea before, is part of his arrogance.

And why he wastes so much time.

To his credit he seems to be trying to actually produce something, and not just posting incessantly.  The VIC actually represents new amiga software....I guess.

But, yes, his *genius* so far has been unable to produce anything revolutionary or significant...imho, because he spends too much time rewording old problems and calling the subtleties in wording as significant.

But he is also one of the greatest troll kings of all time, and Amiga.org would be priviliged to have Tim Rue as a regular poster.

This is the stuff legends are made of...I still remember c.s.a.m. fondly for all its odd characters, and Tim Rue was one of the oddest.

 

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Re: V.I.C. Released!
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2003, 03:23:39 PM »
Please don't encourage the Rue to come here! That's why I avoid amiga newsgroups...

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For what I understand Rue is both nutty & a genius, but he is only a little part of the reason why I left csa*. The bigger part of that reason is the way csa* reacted and responded to his babbling. Through this csa* became hardly bearable and I certainly won't like to see Amiga.org going the same route. I can stand a little Rue; I can do very well without the overheated reactions towards his writings. But Rue is no saint either.


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Re: V.I.C. Released!
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2003, 03:33:49 PM »
I don't understand why in particular anyone bothers with the c.s.a.advocacy group... all they do is bitch at each other in there endlessly, call each other nazis and liars... I mean, what is the point...

It makes it worse when they have to crosspost to the saner newsgroups, like c.s.a.misc and turn them into little advocacy clones.
 

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Re: V.I.C. Released!
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2003, 04:27:38 PM »
 I read through the crap on the website (I'm being generous when I say crap) and have a good idea of what this is about.

It's the most awkward way to "autocode" I've ever seen and I've seen a few.  Every one I've seen ends up vanishing because they are impossible to sell

It's poorly documented thanks to Mr. Obscurity who seems to think of coding as art.  (I think I've worked with his clone before... always talk about incredible sounding ideas and never finish simple tasks on time because they are seeking perfection)

Is it any surprise that this guy is trying to solve problems in the software industry  (something about most software projects being cancelled before they are finished) but if this had been a commercial product it would have been cancelled years ago?

My honest opinion... his tool works in the abstract but I couldn't see where it could replace real world coding and would take longer to do even if it did.

I send out my congratulations on it's completion... may we never hear from it again!

 

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Re: V.I.C. Released!
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2003, 05:13:06 PM »
@johan

You know what...I just realized my post about Tim Rue is one of a personal nature...(and therfore technically a personal attack!)

DRAT! The rules have only been in place a day, and I already violated them.

In my defense, Tim Rue, in my mind is more of a phenomena than an actual person.

Laughs...I would have told you yesterday I would be the last to violate these rules, but I've already done it...well maybe someone will remove the post....

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Re: V.I.C. Released!
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2003, 05:45:55 PM »
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Johan wrote:
Please don't encourage the Rue to come here! That's why I avoid amiga newsgroups...

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For what I understand Rue is both nutty & a genius, but he is only a little part of the reason why I left csa*. The bigger part of that reason is the way csa* reacted and responded to his babbling. Through this csa* became hardly bearable and I certainly won't like to see Amiga.org going the same route. I can stand a little Rue; I can do very well without the overheated reactions towards his writings. But Rue is no saint either.


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Re: V.I.C. Released!
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2003, 05:56:05 PM »
@DaveP:

I have not followed this issue very much over the years (although I remember reading Tim Rue's posts when I was still on csam), but it is actually interesting. I think your words describe the phenomenon quite well.

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Re: V.I.C. Released!
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2003, 09:23:43 AM »
Tim didn't kill the newsgroups, Steve G killed them.
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Though I don't quite remember Steve G, I think there were more who can be held responsible for making csa* a horrible place. And though Tim Rue had his share in violating rules of normal behaviour I don't hold him responsible for "killing" csa*. Nutty as he may be.

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Re: V.I.C. Released!
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2003, 10:23:15 AM »
> Though I don't quite remember Steve G...

 :-o  :-o  :-o  

Google search for Author=SG in comp.sys.amiga.*

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Re: V.I.C. Released!
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2003, 11:10:30 AM »

Google search for Author=SG in comp.sys.amiga.*

Ah yes, SG. That sounds (too) familiar...


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Re: V.I.C. Released!
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2003, 11:37:07 AM »
Who was the guy who was so rabidly anti Bernie?
Hate figure. :lol: