Frogger is slow on my MMU '030 playing VCD

[Hyperspeed]

Okay, you've all lost the plot!

The original question was VideoCD on an '030... classic chipset too
by the look of it!

As a percentage of the 6 million Amigas out there, how many have a
Cyberstorm PowerPC or a PCI interface!?

Desktop Amiga users were pitifully neglected when it came to graphics
cards. Everyone made every sort of gizmo available but the next most
important thing of all (after hard disk and accelerator/RAM) was never
provided for!

The only real option for desktop A1200 owners was to cram in the
useless AteoBus Pixel64 or win the lottery and buy a PPC/BVision
combo.

Why was the Amiga's integrated image so savaged in the recent years?
Everyone loves the classic `wedge' design and to put your A1200 in a
tower basically does away with it's unique product design.

What happens then is that slowly PC owners will wear you down by
comparing your machine (now in a PC case) to their super-machine. All
the time Apple sneaks through the back door with an integrated machine
called `iMac'...

See where I'm getting?
Hold your guns Amiga owners, oh and throw out your WinUAE!

Anyway, did you download and try the 2x RiVA links I posted? It was
updated about a month ago so it may well support fast VCD playing on
AGA.

:-D :-D :-D :-D

[Karlos]

@hyperspeed

We didn't lose the plot. We are discussing the factors that influence the performance of mpeg playback on classic amiga hardware. A 68030/30MHz + AGA is really asling a tad too much, no matter how great the playback software is.

As for graphics memory write speed, AGA is on a par with a Z2 graphics card (max about 7MB/s) which is sufficient for 8-bit playback. Can look pretty good in HAM8 too. But of course this means your absolutely need as fast a CPU as possible - converting 24-bit RGB to some sort of planar HAM8 isn't exactly a cakewalk. An 060 starts to become essential.

Nobody is slamming the "integrated" 1200D, but it is over 10 years old now - you need to expand it to get much joy these days. I had one that was absolutely crammed to the brim but eventually a tower was essential if it was all to survive.

Now I have another 2 1200D's to go along side it that I have no intention of towering ;-)

[Hyperspeed]

All those poor wedge cases going to the bin, it's enough to make you
cry!

And at the same time Apple are hailing the revolution of the
integrated computer design!

:-D

I'd be happy to settle for non-upgradable, surface mounted memory if
it meant having an accelerator with integrated GFX chipset and maybe
SCSI for my A1200 desktop.

Like the Blizzard PPC + BVision but integrated as opposed to
expansions with bulky connectors. Price was always a problem for this
sort of luxury goods though...

One thing I have thought though, if you have an A1200 in a
tower,wouldn't it be cool for it's keyboard to be an A1200 desktop!
That way you could still have a towered A1200 and your lovely desktop
wedge design!

The A1200 wouldn't take up much more space than a keyboard and you'd
have a ready-made network machine for Stunt Car Racer.

:-) :-) :-)

Simple video/mouse/keyboard switching and you could have 2x machines
printing and playing MP3 simultaneously!

;-)

[gizz72]

Greeting whabang,

Gizz:
I just came to think of something:
Which IDE/SCSI-comtroller are you using? Transfers can eat a lot of CPU-power, if you don't use DMA.

Well I'm using my IDEFix'97 for my CDRW sony. :-D
Is there any way I could use DMA method here?
-edit-
@all
I find riva unable to read VCD straight. As said, I can only extract the format from VCD to MPEG file using Frogger(eats a lot of HD space too). Then I can view it using Riva(with a few modification on it's configs).

Regards,

Gizz

[Hyperspeed]

Can't you use VCDGear to dump the VCD onto a file then burn a
filesystem disc, so rather than play the stream you can just play a
disc with a file.mpg on it for RiVA.

Alternatively, burn 10x CDXL discs...

:-D :-D :-D

[gizz72]

Greetings Hyperspeed,

Thanks for the tip. :-) I have not tried VCDGear yet. I'll download a copy then try it out. Thanks again.

Regards,

Gizz