Frogger is slow on my MMU '030 playing VCD

[gizz72]

Greetings,

My MMU on my GVP accelerator '030 is only 30Mhz with 8 Megs FastRam. My second accelerator a viper '030 without MMU does not play VCD but has 16 Megs Fast. I don't have a graphics card on My A1200. For the meantime, Is/Are there anyway to speed up my viewing pleasure without the need to expand the hardware? Are there alternative software downloadable besides it? Quick fix or configurations I need to do?

I don't mind viewing it in B/W or in a very small window 150 x 150 pxl, as long it's decent enough to view, not 1 frame every 5 secs or any sound delay. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated here. Thanks all.

Regards,

Gizz

[Zadoc]

An '030 isn't going to cut it for MPEG software decoding.  I'd suggest getting an 060, but even then MPEG video decoding is still a tad slow.

[gizz72]

Greetings Zadoc,

An '030 isn't going to cut it for MPEG software decoding. I'd suggest getting an 060, but even then MPEG video decoding is still a tad slow.

Even on a '060 it's still not decent??? Bugger!
Should there be some configuration problem there?
ATM I can't afford a '060. :-( That's why I need to deal with this via software. I just about to give up here.... *sigh*..

Regards,

Gizz

[Hyperspeed]

I always thought Frogger was much slower than RiVA-GUI. Why not give
that a try?

Even though Frogger demands FBlit be running it is still slow even
when put onto it's own custom screen.

I'm not sure if the latest RiVA allows VideoCD but you could give it a
whirl.

That MAS-Player doesn't do MPEG video does it? I know it handles MP3
but I'm not sure if there's anything on Amiga for aiding a low-spec
machine with MPG decoding.

Once upon a time the Phase5 CyberVision 64/3D was planned to fully
support MPEG decoding, and I'm sure I've heard someone mention that
the Permedia 2 in the BlizzardVision PPC has provision for it.

Try these:
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http://de5.aminet.net/pub/aminet/gfx/show/RiVA.lha
http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/pub/aminet/gfx/show/RivaAudio.lha

[Ilwrath]

Even on a '060 it's still not decent??? Bugger!

Yeah...  It's not too good to look at, even on an '060.  Heck, my 4000/060 can barely do MPEG2 Layer 3 audio at a reasonable bitrate, let alone handle anything that involves audio AND video layers...

Your best bet would be to find a program to convert the VCD (mpeg) to less compressed format, and then try to view that.  It'll eat lots (LOTS!) of diskspace, and a fair while to convert, though.

Really, your BEST best choice is to find a cheap DVD player that supports VCD.  My $45 Samsung does it....

[gizz72]

Greetings Ilwrath,
Oh my I tried conversion, I have a fairly large HD capacity ATM. I'll give it a spin. Try to check that under winuae for now.

Really, your BEST best choice is to find a cheap DVD player that supports VCD. My $45 Samsung does it....

Hmmm a DVD drive? Does it run fairly well even on a '030 without MMU while using frogger? If so then I'll save up and buy one for Xmas(figers crossed). I was thinking a DVDWriter(too expensive for now). :-D Thanks all

Regards,

Gizz

[Hyperspeed]

You could always hunt down the elusive CD32 FMV cartridge for playing
VideoCDs...  it worked with the SX-1 too (but not with the SX32 as far
as I know).

:-)

[Matt_H]

No, no, no, a DVD Player, like the kind you connect to a television - not a DVD Drive, like what you'd add to a computer. ;-) A DVD drive won't decode anything for you, so you're still stuck with the '030 speed bottleneck. There are some DVD drives with built-in decoders, but there are no Amiga drivers.

[gizz72]

Greetings Matt_H,

DOH!! Silly bugger I am!! Thanks for the correction. :oops: Didn't notice it was a Player. hehe... :lol:

Anyway, the DVDPlayer, I have a PioneerDVD player but, it's in the other room. I just want to view VCD so I don't need to go from room to room.

Regards,

Gizz

[gizz72]

DOH!! Silly bugger I am!! Double Post!!! :oops: I hate mondays!!
Gizz

[srg86]

Don't forget that the m68k line of CPU's are very old and run at comparativly slow clock rates, I mean the 060 only runs at what? 66MHz? And AFAIK the 060 was released in about 1992. The 020 in about 1984. They were really good CPU's in their day (even if FPU performance did drop off a bit) but I'd be surprised if they'll run MPEG 2 plus an operating system, even on something as good as an Amiga.

well that's my 2 cents anyway.

srg

[whabang]

Well,

My old 486 @ 66 MHz could do it with halved quality, so it should do fine on an overclocked 040, or a 060.

[gizz72]

Greetings whabang,

My old 486 @ 66 MHz could do it with halved quality, so it should do fine on an overclocked 040, or a 060.

Yes I agree. The old 486 does play video better. Thanks to VGA cards. :-)

Regards,

Gizz

[Crumb]

Use RiVA. Frogger is dead slow compared to RiVA... but you won't get much speed with a 030... even a 060 is slow... A ppc would help a lot... But it would be easier to buy a DivX player for 60€

[whabang]

gizz72 wrote:
Greetings whabang,

My old 486 @ 66 MHz could do it with halved quality, so it should do fine on an overclocked 040, or a 060.

Yes I agree. The old 486 does play video better. Thanks to VGA cards. :-)

Regards,

Gizz

Of course. Not having a gfx-board on your Amiga would make things even slower.

BTW, did you know that AMD's 486-DX4s performed better per cycle, than the early P4s? :-)