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Re: Opera on amiga
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2003, 04:33:13 PM »
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Kronos, QNX has a userbase smaller than that, and there is a port of Opera for it.
I think Opera on the Amiga has a chance. It's not much of a chance, but it's better than none.

QSSL itself paid for the QNX port, and it was done to make Opera available for QNX embedded applications. The QNX desktop is essentially a development platform for embedded systems; it might well be smaller than the Amiga userbase, but Opera wasn't ported for desktop users (developers), but for small-device users whose mobile devices, etc.  run QNX embedded. I'm sure if Hyperion or Amiga, Inc. would like to Pay Opera Software for an Amiga port, then one would be done.

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Re: Opera == expensive
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2003, 04:41:22 PM »
Opera is expensive.  They have been burned several times by companies who pulled out and didn't pay up for what was owed (sound familiar?).  Their revenue from their desktop browsers (Opera for Windows, linux, etc) is less than a third of their total revenue, despite it being used by hundreds of thousands to millions of people around the world.  They are a privately owned company and aren't in a position to do charity work, which is what a port would be right now.  If a platform could guarantee a large (hundreds of thousands) number of sales and someone was willing to pay up-front for the porting costs, they might do it.  But it would be an expensive deal.
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Re: Opera == expensive
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2003, 05:07:32 PM »
Amiga inc should pay the Opera guys to do a port.
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Re: Opera on amiga
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2003, 05:07:44 PM »
I think the only decent chance of amiga getting a decent browser would be to get people within the community to port mozilla over which is open source... maybe help this guy out http://mozamiga.mozdev.org/

I wouldnt expect much help from amiga inc tho.. the way ibrowse is included with the OS smells the same way IE is included with windows. ;-)
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Re: Opera on amiga
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2003, 05:17:39 PM »
@ZINE

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It has been completly inactive for allmost 3 years.
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Re: Opera on amiga
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2003, 05:28:26 PM »
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I think the only decent chance of amiga getting a decent browser would be to get people within the community to port mozilla over which is open source...


Or get Microsoft to port IE.  :)  Hey, I'd take it if it were included.  And you would know your browser was compatable with every site out there.
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Re: Opera on amiga
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2003, 05:35:49 PM »
Opera wont ever come to Amiga... user base is to small... not saying it will come to MorphOS...but if MorphOS is going to run on 'generic' hardware then it will make more sense...
but first OS4 needs to excist and get running on the A1 and be shipped first  so it's pointless to argue.

I do think that guy made sense though... MorphOS is lightyears ahead of 68K AmigaOS...and 68k  AOS is the only AOS that's out right now... I personally wouldnt want to even touch opera bieng emulated in 68K...
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Re: Opera on amiga
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2003, 05:42:41 PM »
amiga inc should get there act together and get a port  they give an ad supported version for free for windows, and qnx is not that big.most people probaly just use a keygen on opera to register it anyway least  .
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Re: Opera == expensive
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2003, 05:44:43 PM »
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Paul_Gadd wrote:
Amiga inc should pay the Opera guys to do a port.


Bwahahaha, with what? their good looks? :)

Why would Amiga Inc. benefit from this? They only license the name to Hyperion, who actually make and sell AmigaOS.

The licensing fees that Amiga recieve will likely be less than the per-user cost of a ported browser anyway.
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Re: Opera == expensive
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2003, 05:47:29 PM »
Probably the only way Opera would agree to a port, is if a company offered to port it for them for free, much in the way of the business model of Loki (rip).

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Re: Opera == expensive
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2003, 05:51:26 PM »
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Why would Amiga Inc. benefit from this?


They would not (and i hope they would not)  but with the money from the t-shirt and coupon scams that can be put to good use,

The Amiga is supposed to be a multimedia system but has not got a decent webbrowser, priceless.
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Re: Opera on amiga
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2003, 05:58:40 PM »
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think the only decent chance of amiga getting a decent browser would be to get people within the community to port mozilla over which is open source... maybe help this guy out http://mozamiga.mozdev.org/


Pity it's for AmigaDE, and thereby incompatable with AmigaOS.
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Re: Opera on amiga
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2003, 06:25:48 PM »
but mozzila is crap i dont want that rubbish even ie is better.
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Re: Opera on amiga
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2003, 06:30:52 PM »
As long as there's an Xserver available, I'll just run Opera/Mozilla/whatever in an Xwindow on the Amiga served from my router.

What AmigaOS needs is a killer app, a reason for existing. Non Amigans won't buy an AmigaOne, we need a reason for them to need an Amiga, and it's not a browser.

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Re: Opera on amiga
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2003, 06:47:33 PM »
Now lets us forget Opera.. support Ibrowse.. its going strong, soon v3.0 will be out with Flash, CSS, JAVA and so on...

It would actually be nice to see Opera for Amiga, but Ibrowse is kinda the Opera for Amiga or even better visually.

Buy Ibrowse and support Amiga...! On the other hand.. if Opera was ever ported to Amiga, the competition between Opera and Ibrowse would affect in good and faster upgrades I think...

For now,.. for me.. Ibrowse rulez!

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Re: Opera on amiga
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 10, 2003, 07:29:33 AM »
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but mozzila is crap i dont want that rubbish even ie is better.

Heh, crap? What do you mean, exactly? And beggers can be choosers, right? Anyway, I'm using Phoenix (browser-only Mozilla) now and it's fine. No problems with it whatsoever.

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