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Help with Toaster/Flyer Video Drives
« on: September 07, 2004, 06:58:28 PM »
Hello Amigans

I'm building a nice Mirage 4000T New Tek Video Toaster Flyer editing system.
I have a Flyer card and a VT4000 card installed. I have 1 36gb SCA SCSI Seagate Baracuda drive and 1 36gb SCA SCSI Cheetah drive for video (with sca <> 50 pin adaptors) and 1 18gb Quantam Atlas 3 50 pin SCSI drive for audio.

When I run the Flyer HD tools I dont know what Cache settings to use for the drives - also do I need to short stroke them?

When I do a test record in the 4.2 flyer software the drive only records for about 6 seconds and then it comes back saying that it is not fast enough to keep up...

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Any help/advice is appreciated.
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Re: Help with Toaster/Flyer Video Drives
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2004, 11:26:18 PM »
I dont have my flyer in front of me, but here it goes from Memory.   Run the full test on each drive, setting the speed to 4.8 MB/s (I believe that is the number for HQ5), and then shortstroke each drive so you have HQ5 for the whole drive.  You also need to go to the Newtek site.

www.newtek.com and find the pointer to the flyer update site, that will give you the FAQ etc, if it contradicts what I wrote here, use what it says, since I helped Paul, Chuck and the rest of the gang write it.
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Re: Help with Toaster/Flyer Video Drives
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2004, 01:23:25 AM »
Tigger

Thank you very much for the post. I'm confused by the Flyer Tools program. It took 8+ hrs to run the test on the 36gb drive! Is this right?

I have the Flyer Mastery Guide too, but how do I exactly short stroke the drive? The test said it was only 8.5% for shortstroke shouldnt it be like 90%??

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Re: Help with Toaster/Flyer Video Drives
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2004, 02:43:24 AM »
How new are the drives your using? Current hardrives are so fast I don't think you have to worry about Cache settings anymore.
 

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Re: Help with Toaster/Flyer Video Drives
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2004, 03:05:25 AM »
Hi Pyro

The drives are all new and fast 10k and 7200k rpms... Do I still need to short stroke them?

magnetic

I just tried to record again and after 6 seconds it says Error: Flyer dropped frames during recording. Maybe drive is too slow for this mode.

Its standard quality.. :(  This is an 18gb 7200 rpm Quantum Atlas 3. Should be fine. There are some flyer clips on the drive and when I go to play them back they stutter.. Can termination cause these probs?

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Re: Help with Toaster/Flyer Video Drives
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2004, 11:57:06 AM »
Hi Magnetic,
  On page 2-5 of the Mastery Flyer Guide tell you how to short stroke the drives. Also I use the sca <> 50 pin adaptors on Seagate Barracude 18 gb drive with no problem. Just don't push on the top of the adaptors with the power on the circuit board, could short out on the drive case. With the newer harddrives the test should be in the hi 90's. The Barracuda test results 99.8%
1. your drive might be bad.
2. your drive might not be fast enough
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