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68060.library
« on: September 04, 2004, 04:32:05 AM »
Anyone know what the newest 68LC060 compatible 68060.library out there is and from where can it be obtained?

I downloaded v46.7 from DCE's software download page.  The issue I'm having is with an Apollo 1260LC/75 accelerator not being able to run 90% of applications without the infamous "Program Failed (error#8000003D) suspend/resume" box rearing it's ugly head.  I can't get past setpatch with anything other than the Phase 5/DCE libraries; even the 1260 install disk versions lock up at that point.  The only explanation I have is that most versions are expecting the FPU to be present, which is unfortunately not the case with this 1260.  I'm running OS3.9 BB2 and have tried with/without the rom update.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: 68060.library
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2004, 06:15:06 AM »
Do you have all of the libraries installed/named correctly?  (read the readme that comes with the libs).   You might also try the NOCACHES argument for SETPATCH.  It helped out with a problem 060 I had.
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Re: 68060.library
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2004, 09:35:28 AM »
@ EzdineG,

Use Cyber Libs, The non fpu one. CyberPatcher is not a bad idea either. these are the latest 060 libs.

Chris

PS: Adolescent is right on point. You must change name from 68060???..lib to 68060.lib.
 

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Re: 68060.library
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2004, 05:47:40 PM »
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Use Cyber Libs, The non fpu one. CyberPatcher is not a bad idea either. these are the latest 060 libs.
PS: Adolescent is right on point. You must change name from 68060???..lib to 68060.lib.


Where can I get the Cyber Libs?  Sounds like they (the non fpu) are exactly what I need. I've never dealt with any fpu files having the extension ".lib".  Was this shortened for the sake of posting, or is that how the Cyber Libs come?  Everything I've seen thus far has been named 68060.library, and I've never modified the names.  I guess I'm in need of some serious RTFM.

I'm still a little confused.

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Adrian
 

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Re: 68060.library
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2004, 05:53:45 PM »
From what I remember the 060 bin files fail most of the time on Apollo accelerators with the 060 in it. The libs were just not ever compatable with the boards. I found it best to use the 020+ bins. Since you have no MMU in your accelerator they should be fine. Also dont use the DCE libs. They will not work well at all with that accelerator. They are for the CS series and Bliz series cards.
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Re: 68060.library
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2004, 06:05:36 PM »
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From what I remember the 060 bin files fail most of the time on Apollo accelerators with the 060 in it.

Since you have no MMU in your accelerator they should be fine.

I've read similar things about it, but by the same token saw posts from those with success.  The Apollo 1260LC/75 has an LC version 68060, which does have an MMU.  

If I skip the libs altogether, I get the same [color=CC0000]SUSPEND/REBOOT[/color][/b] prompts as using the DCE versions.

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Re: 68060.library
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2004, 06:44:02 PM »
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#8000003D

This is a "unimplemented interger instruction" exception (vector offset 0x0F4).

This means that 68060 has encountered an instruction it doesn't support in hardware. The unimplemented instructions are:
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DIVU.L <ea>,Dr:Dq                   ; 64 / 32 => 32r,32q
DIVS.L <ea>,Dr:Dq                   ; 64 / 32 => 32r,32q
MULU.L <ea>,Dh:Dl                   ; 32 * 32 => 64
MULS.L <ea>,Dh:Dl                   ; 32 * 32 => 64
MOVEP  Dx,(d16,Ay)                  ; size = W or L
MOVEP  (d16,Ay),Dx                  ; size = W or L
CHK2   <ea>,Rn                      ; size = B, W or L
CMP2   <ea>,Rn                      ; size = B, W or L
CAS2   Dc1:Dc2,Du1:Du2,(Rn1):(Rn2)  ; size = W or L
CAS    Dc:Du,<ea>                   ; size = W or L, misaligned <ea>


The exception tells us that MC68060ISP is not installed. See M68060UM/AD Appendix C for details.

In simple terms MC68060ISP provides emulation for the unimplemented integer opcodes. Typically the 68060.library includes this (aswell as other 68060SP parts, emulation for missing FPU things for example).

If no proper 68060.library is installed, the system will not function properly.


Now, it could well be that the provided 68060.library doesn't properly handle 68LC060 and assumes FPU. In that case, contact your dealer and/or the card manufacturer for working drivers.

All the bad things said about Phase5/DCE, at least they had working drivers for their hardware.
 

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Re: 68060.library
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2004, 07:23:33 PM »
@ EzdineG,

Yes, shortened for posting. I've been using those libs on my A2000 since Kevin Orm @ Amiga-U recomended them and they work fine with my GVP Tek 060. Do a Google for Cyberstorm.

Chris
 

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Re: 68060.library
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2004, 08:52:01 PM »
I have never used an Apollo accel in any amiga I've owned (only TekMagic/GVP, DKB and P5), but here's some more stuff on this topic anyway that might help:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=3891&forum=2&10

http://www.amiga-hardware.com/apollo4060.html

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Re: 68060.library
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2004, 09:48:59 PM »
I think mmulib also provides an alternative 680x0.library (available on aminet). Don't know if it is compatible with your card though and the installation of mmulib is not fully automatic either.

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Re: 68060.library
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2004, 11:47:55 PM »
F**k the 68LC060 then!
Buy an normal MC68060 with FPU MMU accelerator board!
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Re: 68060.library
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2004, 01:05:58 AM »
The Viper and Apollo 1260 cards with 66/75Mhz are overclocked XC-boards, so they are very crappy!
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Re: 68060.library
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2004, 04:10:08 AM »
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QuikSanz wrote:
I've been using those libs on my A2000 since Kevin Orm @ Amiga-U recomended them and they work fine with my GVP Tek 060. Do a Google for Cyberstorm.
Chris

@Quik
How do you like the Tek '060?  I've got one of these also. You notice that the SCSI on that card checks the entire SCSI chain at boot even if you set LASTDISK on the first HD in RDB?  The 'Tek definitely doesn't like the DCE libs, that's for sure.

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Re: 68060.library PROBLEM SOLVED!!
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2004, 05:42:40 PM »
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The MuLib version of 68060.library worked fine with the 68LC060.  I've spent a couple of hours with the system and it seems solid.  Only thing that won't run is AIBB, which spontaneously reboots.  Seems to happen on all '060 machines I have though, so no big loss there.

Thanks for the recommendation, and all other help!
 

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Re: 68060.library
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2004, 06:38:22 PM »
@ EzdineG,

It's been a good card. I've had it since about 97 and have had no trouble except for a flakey mem stick and SCSI cable Even my external Yamaha CDRW w/ MakeCD works w/ no errors. This one clocks in at 56Mhz with Sys Speed. It will play 128k shoutcast streams W/24bit repulse audio and can still do work, or play games. :-)

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Do NOT use any GVP utilities except for Reboot for old stubborn games. Use HDTools only and get transfer right.