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Scandoubler recommendations
« on: September 03, 2004, 01:35:17 PM »
Hi

I'm getting an A1200 soon and all I have are SVGA monitors. There is a guy selling an "AMIVGA" thing but a past thread on this forum said it was rubbish.

Anyway what scan doubler would you all recommend?

thanks

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Re: Scandoubler recommendations
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2004, 01:49:54 PM »
I recommend :
http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/search.pl?dir=gfx#scanmagicint

I prefer this internal Scandoubler/FF above
an external one. If you use an external, you will
see tiny vertical stripes on an egal background.
I really hate that! Because you can't get rid of it.
You can fine-adjust with the so called "potentiometer",
but only to a certain degree. That really sucks.
So, go for the internal "ScanMagic".
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Re: Scandoubler recommendations
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2004, 02:08:19 PM »
I've heard that they can get really hot.

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Re: Scandoubler recommendations
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2004, 02:19:48 PM »
The do get fairly hot (the glue from a gluegun that holds the cables in place on my got soft), but I also have a 2Gb 2.5" IBM drive right on top of that so heat from that is added aswell. Never had any problems with the heat though and I do recommend them.

The external ones get even hotter and needs mods for airflow to keep them happy.

AMIVGA apart from being crapp also is only for ECS not AGA so it won't work with your A1200.

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Re: Scandoubler recommendations
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2004, 05:21:49 PM »
WOW those scanmagic's are expensive! ~£90!

hmm It'll have to wait

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Re: Scandoubler recommendations
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2004, 05:21:54 PM »
Hi,

Recently I aquired one of those DCE internal scandoubler/flickerfixers.

It is a pcb that is clipped over Lisa.
The thing works great. The smallest chip on the pcb does get rather hot.

I'm in the progress of installing it in my desktop A1200.
Next week I'll be adding passive cooling to the small hot chip. The harddisk will be moved to the right. I'm modifying the tinware to make all this possible.

Anyway to make a story short;
An internal Scandoubler/Flicker fixer is difficult (and a lot of work) to install proparly.
If you are not a Do It Yourself (DIY) man I would not recommend it. If you are, an internal is definatly the best (matter of opinion). If you're not try to get an external one. An external can be used on other miggy's too that might join your fleet in the future.

Good luck.



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Re: Scandoubler recommendations
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2004, 05:37:54 PM »
Ehm.. hard to install an internal scandoubler? You must be kidding me right? I meen.. it's snapp on 2 sockets over chips on the mother board and you're done basicly. Sure mounting the VGA port nicely on the Amiga can be tricky but apart from that it's a piece of cake.

About the price... it's steap if you buy it new but you can probably find one second hand for like 40$ or less.

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Re: Scandoubler recommendations
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2004, 05:44:43 PM »
Brian wrote:
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About the price... it's steap if you buy it new but you can probably find one second hand for like 40$ or less.


I've seen them being sold for 80/90EUR on eBay...
For that price you can buy a new one!
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Re: Scandoubler recommendations
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2004, 07:00:15 PM »
@Brain

No I'm not kidding. But perhaps you found an easier way.

I need to relocate my hardrive because it does not seem to fit at it's original location. This can be very tricky. Also I want the original tinware inside to remain as intact as possible.

When I succeed I'll post some pictures of the interiour of my machine.
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Re: Scandoubler recommendations
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2004, 07:22:43 PM »
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Heh, it does look like the front of a beetle!
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Re: Scandoubler recommendations
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2004, 07:52:55 PM »
I have the Scandex:

http://amiga.resource.cx/photos/photo.pl?id=scandex

This works great on the A500/1000/600/1200, but oddly does not work right on the 4000. (I get washed out video)
Going Bananas over AMIGAs since 1987...

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Re: Scandoubler recommendations
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2004, 08:36:58 PM »
@Doppie1200

Correct... the harddrive relocation could be a hassel. I thought of that but ended up creating my own HD cradle instead with longer legs so the scandoubler would fit underneath (about 15mins of aluminium cutting and sawing), though this will probably only work with a bit slimmer than original Amiga 2.5" disks as it get lifted up closer to the keyboard.

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Re: Scandoubler recommendations
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2004, 08:52:29 PM »
I see you guys have problems fitting the HDD after installing the SC/FF.
Take a look here:

http://www.amiga600.de/Placing%20harddrive.htm

I know this is about an A600, but the HDD will probably
also fit on this place in an A1200. But you will have to
remove the tinware.
I did it as well in my A600/030. Until a month ago
that is. Then I installed an CompactFlash/IDE-adapter
with an Sandisk 256MB UltraII-card. If you are installing
a CF2IDE adapter, then you can keep the tinware intact!
It also has other great benefits:
*It handles the CF-card just as a normal HDD.
*It uses much less power
*No noise
*It's not getting overheated
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Re: Scandoubler recommendations
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2004, 10:12:19 PM »
I simply attached my HD to the existing RF shield with double sided tape.  It is very secure.
Time to move on.  Bye Amiga.org.  :(
 

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Re: Scandoubler recommendations
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2004, 10:14:25 PM »
Don't forget the 3m velcro strips.  I've assembled many a 1200 with these retaining newer 44pin hd's.  Newer, smaller drives don't usually line up with the hd-bracket screw holes.