Just a *QUESTION*...

[Dandy]

As the topic already says, this is a question and not meant to offend or annoy anyone here!

Having said this I'd like to hear your opinoins on what I found on the page of GOLEM, an German IT-news page for *professionals*:

http://www.golem.de/0312/28816.html

Here a short translation of the first paragraph:

"Genesi: PPC-board finished - 64-bit board will follow

The competitor to A1 MoBo - Pegasos II - available with PowerPC 750CXe

The Luxemburg based company Genesi announced the availability of their new PPC-mainboard, which will be more powerful in association with G3 and G4 CPU's and like its predecessor it is said to be suited for the AmigaOS competitor MorphOS and LinuxPPC.
Furthermore Genesi and IBM are developing a 64-bit workstation based on the new PowerPC-970-cpu, which is also used in the G5-Mac."

Up to now I'm neutral to AmigaOne as well as to Pegasos, although I've been an Amiga user since 1988.
But from this article it appears to me as if the Pegasos development is far more advanced as A1 development.
They are developing an 64-bit MoBo together with the giant IBM!

On IBM pages they're listed as "Ready for IBM Technology"!

How does it come that Amiga/Eyetech aren't listed there with A1?

From Gary Hares speech I already suspected that his focus isn't on desktops systems anymore.

Do I now interpret this correctly - his main interest is the mobile market and if one is just interested in desktop systems he is better off if he follows the Pegasos path (at least in the long term)?

I mean - there was no hint on Amiga/Eyetech working together with IBM. This implies it would be better to walk the other way, as they have a strong and vital company - IBM - behind them (compared to AInc, who were bought by unknown KMOS)!

Again:
This is not an trolling attempt, but a serious question - and I'd really like to discuss this with you on a *FACTUAL LEVEL*!

[Elektro]

There's no one here that has facts so all you'll get is a bunch of speculation...

anyway quite an old article...

[whabang]

Yes, indeed, it does seem that Genesis is putting more focus on the desktop segment.
If the part about the 64-bit IBM/Genesis board is true, then I  thing I will consider getting a PegIII, when that comes out.

[Kronos]

It is really simple:

Both sides won't be able to survive just with their "toy OS" any time sonn, so they need an external source of income.

For Genesi it is Linux, for Hyperion it are Mac-ports and similar.
AInc/KMOS ? Don't even know wether they have any real income or costs, and Eyetech adds very little to the actual development.

Wether MAI has enough cash to ever get the next generation out is something we just have to see.

What leaves that for us, who are interested in those "toy"-OSes ?

Judge based on what works how today. Forget all insider-information or announcemnts, they have prooven to be far to unreliable in the past.

Judge the HW based on how good it works or not, wether you can use it for other stuff not available for the toy-OSes and wether it gernerally suits your needs.

Judge the future of the t-OS ( :lol:  :lol: ) by the people who actually contribute to them, not by the advocates.

[Vincent]

I understand what you're saying, but there's not really anything we can discuss on a factual level.

There's been speculation all the time about AInc and Genesi (although less on Genesi's side as BBRV do (or did) seem to post here with info), but for a business like AInc there's been very little actual evidence/information given to the public.

[Robert17]

Just think though, few years to get back to the top... they won't be 'Toy Oses' any more

Robert

[whabang]

I'm afraid they'll need more than just a "few years".

[Elektro]

whabang get that moustache cut you look ridiciolous....



 :-D

[whabang]

:laughing:

[rayt]

I agree with Kronos here, don' t listen to all the bull**** talk of people from either "camp".. and most important is that you don't listen to what they say about the other competitor because thats even more ****..
And you should also consider if a classic Amiga is maybe enough to play around with exoctic toy OSs..

[cgutjahr]

Dandy wrote:
But from this article it appears to me as if the Pegasos development is far more advanced as A1 development.

This "article" is just a rephrased version of one of Genesi's press releases. Nothing unusual about that, Golem (just like everybody else) does that quite often. Keep that in mind when reading phrases like "IBM and Genesi are developing a 64-Bit Workstation".