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Giving WinUAE a spin (again) and...
« on: August 30, 2004, 11:31:59 PM »
I can't seem to get HDTools to "see" the HD File I created in WinUAE.  The volume shows up as a NDOS: icon on Workbench (OS 3.1), but it doesn't show up in HDTools for me to format.

What gives?

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Re: Giving WinUAE a spin (again) and...
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2004, 11:33:29 PM »
It shouldn't, you can just format it right off :-)
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Re: Giving WinUAE a spin (again) and...
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2004, 11:41:33 PM »
It has been a LOOOOOOOONG while - what's the methodology of doing that (and thanks you in advance)!
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Re: Giving WinUAE a spin (again) and...
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2004, 11:42:38 PM »
Click on the drive icon once to highlight it, hold the right-hand mouse button down, go to the Icon menu at the top of the creen, and choose Format Disk from there ;-)
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Re: Giving WinUAE a spin (again) and...
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2004, 11:48:46 PM »
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BIZZARO AM NOT KNOWING HOW FORMAT HARD DRIVE

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Re: Giving WinUAE a spin (again) and...
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2004, 11:58:16 PM »
No problemo, not something you do regularly if you can avoid it!
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Re: Giving WinUAE a spin (again) and...
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2004, 12:25:49 AM »
Strangely,
i ve never bothered to create a HD partition with Winuae.

I just created a folder in XP for my os3.9 and dumped the cd into that (with the winuae files), called strangely `Workbench3.1`...

And i suppose that if i were to add a real amiga HD onto the machine i would use a real amiga to format it anyway...

What do ppl use a `winuae HD file`  for anyway, is it faster?

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Re: Giving WinUAE a spin (again) and...
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2004, 12:39:57 AM »
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What do ppl use a `winuae HD file` for anyway, is it faster?


It used to be.  I'm not sure it makes a lot of difference on reasonably modern systems, though.

The biggest benefit it offers is protection.  Both from errant UAE activity, as well as errant user activity.  

With a UAE HDFile, if UAE crashes in a write, it can't damage your host filesystem.  The same has not always been said about using a directory as a UAE HD.

Also with a UAE HDFile, you can't accidently cause a sync error by accessing the UAE directory through your host OS while UAE is running.
 

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Re: Giving WinUAE a spin (again) and...
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2004, 12:47:59 AM »
As for myself, "just for the hell of it" :)
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Re: Giving WinUAE a spin (again) and...
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2004, 12:51:35 AM »
One file is nice and tidy  :-) it runs that fast i would probably not be able to tell the difference between using a HDF and a folder on host OS.
 

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Re: Giving WinUAE a spin (again) and...
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2004, 12:55:43 AM »
You can't have a file called 'aux' under PC OS's, and it won't keep all the file property bits either.
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Re: Giving WinUAE a spin (again) and...
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2004, 01:22:24 AM »
@Holley
Hum,
i just tested by renaming a file to `aux` , and it works ok (??),

 and i seem to have all six options  available (archive, read, delete etc) in the filetypes (??)

i forgot to mention that it was xp pro and a fat32 FS on the partition with WINUAE...

And i`ve never had any problems with corrupt file, after winuae crashes (and there have been many during my experimentations)

perhaps it`s just my machine?
 or the new beta2 winuae?

i should add that i have the convience of reading an amiga file with a  PC application...

see, i just read a backup user-startup from my S: drawer


copy > NIL: SYS:S/RAM.info TO RAM:Disk.info                                                  ; added by MagicWB

run >nil: C:MagicWB-Demon 4,123,123,123 5,175,175,175 6,170,144,124 7,255,169,151 8,0,0,255  ; added by MagicWB
;BEGIN StopMenu
;assign Pixload: "workbench3.1:Starter/Pixload"
;END StopMenu
alias edus ed s:user-startup
alias edss ed s:startup-sequence
;BEGIN MUI
if exists "Workbench3.1:MUI"
   assign MUI: "Workbench3.1:MUI"
   if exists MUI:Libs
      assign add LIBS: MUI:Libs
   endif
   if exists MUI:Locale
      assign add LOCALE: MUI:Locale
   endif
   version >nil: exec.library 39
   if not warn
      if exists MUI:Docs
         if exists HELP:dummy ; do not remove
         endif                ; this entry!
         assign add HELP: MUI:Docs
      endif
   endif
endif
;END MUI
assign con: dismount
assign raw: dismount
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Re: Giving WinUAE a spin (again) and...
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2004, 02:00:47 AM »
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Holley wrote:
You can't have a file called 'aux' under PC OS's, and it won't keep all the file property bits either.


Sure you can (well, in NT anyhow):

C:\>attrib -s -h boot.ini

C:\>copy boot.ini \\.\c:\aux
        1 file(s) copied.

C:\>type \\.\c:\aux
[boot loader]
timeout=3
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional"
/fastdetect

C:\>del \\.\c:\aux

C:\>attrib +s +h boot.ini

C:\>


Filesystem objects in Windows NT/2000/XP/2003 are just like everything else in Windows' global object hierarchy; however, if you reference special files using their short names (COM1, AUX, PRT, etc.), they'll be treated as special files. If you reference them using their global name (\\.\:\), they'll be treated as plain files or directories.

Even so, WinUAE now uses name mangling and a file database for each directory, so you won't ever see a file called "AUX"--you'll see WinUAE's translation of the file name. I think file attribute mapping has been improved as well.

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Re: Giving WinUAE a spin (again) and...
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2004, 03:28:33 AM »
Moving right along, what's a good browser I can try for a bit on UAE?  I downloaded Aweb but the Installer doesn't seem to work.  Hm.
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Re: Giving WinUAE a spin (again) and...
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2004, 11:13:40 AM »
Hum,
i would Unreservedly recommend Ibrowse...
I have tested Aweb and Voyager; in the distant past, Voyager was the bees knees, but unfortunately it hasn't improved (for me; so best to stick to the very old, and stable, versions), and trying to make a website compatible for it while retaining most of the features for other browsers is a nightmare...
Aweb on the other hand is free, but doesn't cut the ice.
 i still have all three versions on my system but i can see no reason to ever switch from ibrowse while surfing  most sites.

Link site here.