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Offline JoseTopic starter

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Are Amiga patents being used by other companies?
« on: February 04, 2003, 11:45:21 PM »
From what I remember Gateway has the patents and Amiga has a special license.
So M$croshaft could be using AmigaOS stuff on windows etc.. :-D
Well I hope not but do you know  any other licensees that use the technology? Maybe it's not public?
Or maybe it was a way for M$ etc. to use the patents without showing evidence AInc was bough for the patents, and to let the platform sink.
Just some thoughts. But if Gateway have the patents they must be using them for something!
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Re: Are Amiga patents being used by other companies?
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2003, 11:55:48 PM »
what i want to know is who owns the CDTV trademarks...
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Re: Are Amiga patents being used by other companies?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2003, 01:30:03 AM »
Yes there was that chinese company who made something called wondertv and A6000 or something.
cant quite remmeber have to look in my old amiga mags
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Re: Are Amiga patents being used by other companies?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2003, 03:58:57 AM »
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Yes there was that chinese company who made something called wondertv and A6000 or something.


Check here.
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Re: Are Amiga patents being used by other companies?
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2003, 07:14:53 AM »
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"Later versions of the WonderTV - the A8000 and A9000 - were designed around an x86 CPU and used the Windows CE operating system."
;-) The idea of an A8000 and A9000 designed around x86 architecture would appeal to many Amiga.org-ers, but the Windows CE has got to go....
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Re: Are Amiga patents being used by other companies?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2003, 08:03:21 AM »
Didnt i read somewhere that one of the amiga copyrights is the bootable cd?
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Re: Are Amiga patents being used by other companies?
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2003, 08:13:08 AM »
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Didnt i read somewhere that one of the amiga copyrights is the bootable cd?
:-? Dunno.  I know that my Apple Powerbook will boot form CD, and Amiga's CD32 obviously can, but I've no idea who had it first, or who invented the idea...
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Re: Are Amiga patents being used by other companies?
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2003, 08:49:05 AM »
AFAIK, they own the patents for the two button mouse...
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Re: Are Amiga patents being used by other companies?
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2003, 09:39:27 AM »
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AFAIK, they own the patents for the two button mouse...


I think the mouse patent is actually "Open menu with right mouse button". That's what I read in a CU Amiga mag or some other amiga mag. In Amigactive they said that Amiga/commodore had the patent for Bootable CD's. Don't know how far that goes..
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Re: Are Amiga patents being used by other companies?
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2003, 10:21:30 AM »
If they do own the patent for bootable CDs I wouldn't be surprised. The CDTV was released in 1991 and this was even before the days of the "powerful multimedia systems" (IE a PC with a SoundBlaster and a CD-ROM).
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Re: Are Amiga patents being used by other companies?
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2003, 10:44:06 AM »
Wait a minute there, didn't SegaMegadriveCD have a self-booting cd before cd32 ever came out? and what about ps1? they self boot too....
          i thought this discussion might be about cellphone games coming out using amiga-de...
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Re: Are Amiga patents being used by other companies?
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2003, 10:54:50 AM »
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Without doubt! The SegaMegaDriveCD came out after the CDTV, so did the PS1. Hell the CD32 came out before the PS1 and was the first 32 bit console. You've oversmoked again! :p

Also, I read the patents when Gateway bought them, and if I'm not mistaken they said that Commodore had a patent on proportional scrollbars. I also read recently an article stating that all of the later clone gfx cards were using Amiga technology (patents) by using co-processors onboard to take the graphics load off the cpu. Hmmm...what a novel idea! :) Soundcards using co-processors to take the audio load off the cpu? Hmm...
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Re: Are Amiga patents being used by other companies?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2003, 11:02:00 AM »
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Wait a minute there, didn't SegaMegadriveCD have a self-booting cd before cd32 ever came out? and what about ps1? they self boot too....
;-) Nope.  They just had self-booting befoure you heard about the CD32, not before it came out.  Lots of people make that mistake.

:-D It always amuses me when young people discover stuff that I enjoyed as a youngster and are then so surprised to discover that I've already heard of it.  "Wow, he's really with it, for an old guy."

:roll: If only they knew...
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Re: Are Amiga patents being used by other companies?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2003, 11:19:08 AM »
BTW, wasn't Sega MegaDrive/Genesis the first 32-bit console?
I mean, the 68000, which the MegaDrive is based on,  is 32-bit right??? :-?
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Re: Are Amiga patents being used by other companies?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2003, 11:54:48 AM »
Im out of my league on this one, but from memory, the 68000 was internally 32bit bit, but external of the cpu the machines (A500 etc) were all 16bit. my guestimate is that the interface to the 68000 cpu was 16bit?

btw, bootable cd's are everywhere now, i guess nearly every platform has them. But getting royalties for it would never be enforcable in court, be harder than trying to get royalties on gif's ;-) but this has been discussed on a.org before...

Does anyone know where, or how to get a list of the patents that are amiga's. I reckon it would be a most interesting read.
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