Teron PX ATX PowerPC motherboard

[downix]

800mhz, Teron PX motherboard, $499

How many HUNDREDS of dollars are you sending Genesi and/or Eyetech in premium?

Actually, please check out http://www.pegasos-usa.com for pricing

The retail price on a Pegasos is *trumpet please* $499.

Funny, same price for a higher-end motherboard seems like a good deal to me.

[MarkTime]

The board you mentioned is a G3/600, not a G4/800, so you aren't comparing apples to apples.

However, all of this is vapor so we'll have to meet again and compare shipping products (if that ever happens again)

But the pegasos is cheaper than the A-one, at least in the states.

[downix]

MarkTime wrote:
The board you mentioned is a G3/600, not a G4/800, so you aren't comparing apples to apples.

However, all of this is vapor so we'll have to meet again and compare shipping products (if that ever happens again)

But the pegasos is cheaper than the A-one, at least in the states.

But I am.  The G4/800 listed there runs without an L3 cache, which makes it equal in performance to the G4/600 which, in non-Altivec mode, is nearly equal in performance to the G3-600.  So we're still comparing similarly speced machines.  Only the Pegasos comes with a built-in audio system, a mini-ATX form factor, firewire support, and actually can use the AGP slot.

And I'd hardly call it vapor.  Please, order a board from us and in 10-20 business days it should be on your doorstep.

[bbrv]

Nate, you are a smart guy…glad that you are on our “side.”  Could we add that in addition to what you have mentioned, we have MorphOS and our own DebianPPC distro with Mac-on-Linux?  We have tried to help people understand for some time that the G3 and G4 with altivec truly work differently.  In this case G3 or G4 make little difference and in fact the G3 works better.

MarkTime, we appreciate you starting this thread.  It did take TerraSoft a little time to understand they posted the wrong picture…;-)  But, their pricing is good.  We did mention here on this site (in December) that the TerraSoft pricing would eventually put some pressure on this market.  There will be more pressure soon…;-)

Lets watch what happens next or in “mid-Feburary 2003” (they could learn to spell February right!).  You have to admit calling it the “Boxer” series ought to make a few Amigans scratch their heads

Sincerely,
R&B  :-)

[Hammer]

Kronos wrote:
@EricZ

When the TeronPX (aka A1-XE) goes into production it will be
produced by one company on the same assembly line, so you can be
100% sure that the differences between the two will only be in
BIOS, name and price.

Do know the address?  

[amigamad]

amiga stuff always has been expensise, you can buy 4 amd socket a boards and 4 procesers that are twice as fast as an a1 or terron board for what these cost. :-?

[anarchic_teapot]

MarkTime wrote:

But I believe the AmigaONE is sans L2 cache as well, so its a fine comparison in this case.

Sorry, but you're wrong. Both the IBM 750 FX/CXe and Motorola's 7451 have an on-board L2 cache (doing a search on ibm.com and motorola.com turns up this info very quickly). AFAIK, the 7451 will also have an L3 cache.

Terrasoft's site looks to me as if it hasn't been fully updated, as there's no way they can sell the PX for the same prix as the CX and make money on it. They do have to eat, after all.

[anarchic_teapot]

downix wrote:

But I am.  The G4/800 listed there runs without an L3 cache, which makes it equal in performance to the G4/600 which, in non-Altivec mode, is nearly equal in performance to the G3-600.

ROTFL. And if you switch the power off on the G4, it runs infinitely slower than the G3.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the A1G4XE will have an L3 cache, and both Linux and AOS4 will make use of Altivec.

[anarchic_teapot]

zacman wrote:

The OS4 enabler kit (to make a LinuxOne OS4
compatible, fully licenced etc.) is available for
160EUR from Vesalia. So for TS (if the price was
right) would be 660eur for a 64/800MHz Boxer with a
OS4 licence.

Except that the Boxer won't come with an OS4 licence.

Not forgetting that the update kit also comprises a new firmware chip, the extractor tool and a legal copy of OS4. Other commercial OSes cost more than 160 euros inc VAT for the OS alone, and you've already paid for the licence with your mobo, whether you wanted to or not.

Oh, and @ the guy that thinks it's OK to steal licences : apart from the fact that it's an awful lot of work just to save 160 euros, remember that the more software theft happens now, the more likely it is that the Amiga will die. Again, because piracy already helped kill it once.
I presume you like to be paid for the work you do? Why should you refuse to pay others for the work they do for you? If you don't like what they do, don't buy it. If you like what they do, don't steal it.

See the story of the goose that laid the golden eggs for further information.

[Quixote]

;-) The announcement of a lower priced product just as the opposition is beginning to release their competing product is a commonly used marketing strategy.  The idea is to reduce the competition's market share while increasing your own.  Until a product is released, and you can plonk down cash and walk out with it, an announced price is just an announced price.  Take it for what it's worth.

[bbrv]

Hey look Rose, here we all are -- together -- no harsh words, no insults...incredible!

Cool! ;-)

Best regards and good luck!

R&B :-D

[poweramiga2002]

now ime all confused does this mean the A1 g4 800  is a waist of money and we might as well just get the g3/600 because its just as fast ? :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?

[Quixote]

poweramiga2002 puzzled:

now ime all confused does this mean the A1 g4 800  is a waist of money and we might as well just get the g3/600 because its just as fast ?

;-) In a word, no.

:-D In many words, a G4/800 Amiga will be much faster than a G3/600 Amiga.

[poweramiga2002]

I do hope so and i hope mine arives soon  :-)  :-D

[strobe]

I always wondered what was the sound a thousand pre-orders being cancelled would make.

[Rob]

Has anyone else noticed the illustration Picture Terrasoft use for the
Teron PX is a Teron CX.