Amiga 4000D mobo hard to find?

[BoingBoss]

Hi TheMagicM,

I've always wanted the flagship Amiga but never really did get one.

Does this mean that you always wanted an Amiga 2000 Series computer but you never got one?  All true Amiga lovers know that the Amiga 2000 is THE Flagship Amiga model.  The Amiga 4000 never achieved the success and popularity of the Amiga 2000, 500, and the Amiga 1200 Series.  And of these three, the Amiga 2000 Series was ranked number one because of the NewTek Video Toaster 2000.  The Amiga 2000 Series earned "Flagship Status" because it was designed and built in Germany and is the highest quality, best built of all the Amiga models.  Also, more expansion boards and hardware was produced for the Amiga 2000 Series then any other Amiga, including the Amiga 500 and 1200 Series.  Yes, the Amiga 2000 Series will always be The Flagship Amiga computer, the best of the best.   :-)

Oh, BTW.... TheMagicM, I do have an extra Amiga 2000 computer that I could sell you (I come across them all the time).  Then you will have one.  I personally own four of them and they are great machines.  I have NEVER had any problems out of them.   :-D

As far as the Amiga 4000 is concerned, DO NOT BUY ONE!!!!  The following is a list of the lowest quality, poorly designed Amiga models:  Amiga 600, Amiga 1200, Amiga 4000, and Amiga 4000T.  If you get one of these you WILL have lots of problems with them.  Also remember that the motherboards in these Amiga models are the lower quality "SMT", not the higher quality "thru-hole" motherboards.  So, if you ever have to repair the piece of crap, good luck.   :lol:

[TheMagicM]

No, I meant the A4000.  :-P    Honestly if it wasnt for the A4000 I'd pick a A3000 over the A2000.  

Correct me if I'm wrong..but if you put the same cpu card in a A2000 and one in the a3000, the 3000 would come out on top, power wise.  Now it doesnt have as much room as the A2000 and I dont believe a toaster 2000 will fit in the a3000 with the case on but thats another story.  They do have a toaster 4000 card that works w/the a4000.    

But we're not talking A3000 vs A2000..   A4000 vs A2000..A4000 would just straight up DOM-I-NATE.  And that case the a4000 has..sexy.  I cant wait to dim the lights and sloooowwwllly take that case off...and...and... nevermind..

[BoingBoss]

Hi TjLaZer,

The 4000 is my favorite Amiga! I have four of them.

I feel sorry for you, bud.    :lol:  :roflmao:  :lol:

[BoingBoss]

Hi TheMagicM,

And that case the a4000 has..sexy. I cant wait to dim the lights and sloooowwwllly take that case off...and...and... nevermind..

Oh boy, can I watch?   :lol:

[odin]

TheMagicM wrote:
No, I meant the A4000.  :-P    Honestly if it wasnt for the A4000 I'd pick a A3000 over the A2000.

For me the holy grail is an A3000T.

But we're not talking A3000 vs A2000..   A4000 vs A2000..A4000 would just straight up DOM-I-NATE.  And that case the a4000 has..sexy.  I cant wait to dim the lights and sloooowwwllly take that case off...and...and... nevermind..

I acquired an A4k last week and did just that. I got very intimate with her. I was shocked however when I undressed her that she had started leaking. Luckily her libido has been fully restored now. We do things with each other each evening ;-).

[FastRobPlus]

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>>But beware of the term 'Flagship Amiga'
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If it was not designed in Los Gatos, and it does not have a keyboard garage, it's not the flagship Amiga.

For reference, here are some other indicators you might not have a flagship Amiga:

- Lack of a WCS

- No power to serial or parallel ports

- Mouse connector not L-shaped

- Not named on the cover of Byte, Creative Computing, COMPUTE!, etc. as "The Amiga Computer"

- No musical tone on system boot

- No Amiga checkmark logo on case

- Monitor design and color scheme does not match the case design and color scheme

- Matching monitor not called "Amiga"

- Case has no designer signatures moulded in the plastic

- No handy 256K expansion socket

[Cyberus]

Amiga 4000D mobo hard to find?

Everybody sing:
"An A4000 mobo these days is hard to find,
Please be gentle with this mobo of mine"

boingboss wrote:

As far as the Amiga 4000 is concerned, DO NOT BUY ONE!!!! The following is a list of the lowest quality, poorly designed Amiga models: Amiga 600, Amiga 1200, Amiga 4000, and Amiga 4000T. If you get one of these you WILL have lots of problems with them.

That's a lot of crap! I'm using A600,A1200 & A4000's
from the beginning, and never had any problems with them!
They are very stable systems. I once used an A2000 for my
work (a MultiMedia Company), and always had trouble with
that one! I replaced it with an A4000.
 :furious:

[X-ray]

@ Boing Boss:

There isn't an A2000 anywhere on this planet that I'd trade for my A4000T, and it doesn't even have a graphics card.

The only advantage you have over me is that your CIAs are socketed.

Well, what I mean to say is that yours were already socketed, whereas I had mine socketed recently. No more CIA worries for me.

Edit: the flagship classic Amiga was the A4000T, no doubt about it. The only classic I might swap it for would be an A3000+

X-ray wrote:

the flagship classic Amiga was the A4000T, no doubt about it. The only classic I might swap it for would be an A3000+

That's right!
 :-D

[JonoPike]

I like all classic amiga's
A500, A600, A1000, A1200, A1500, A2000, A2500, A3000(T),
A4000(T), A-Walker (yes, even that one!)

[jeffimix]

@k-disk

on the other hand my Video teacher has a 2000 toaster setup running about 24/7 in the school year, never breaks down (did a couple times, had to clean it).

jeffimix wrote:

on the other hand my Video teacher has a 2000 toaster setup running about 24/7 in the school year, never breaks down (did a couple times, had to clean it).

Don't get me wrong. It's just that everybody has different experiences with different kind of Amiga's.
Somethimes, once in a while, an Amiga can break down
or something...  S..t happens!

 :-D

[FastRobPlus]

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The only advantage you have over me is that your CIAs are socketed.
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Socketed!?!  You're letting post-Y2K air into the holes!!  You are supposed to epoxy over the CIAs to prevent contamination!

[SHADES]

@X-ray
II for one would like to see how you socketed you CIA chips. It's something I have wanted to do for some time now.

How about a brief on where you got the sockets from and some pics??

I only ever managed to source out sockets for buster etc. That was a nightmare to solder!!

[FastRobPlus]

For what it's worth, I remember reading an interview with some CBM guy when the AA chips were introduced.  When asked why AA could not be retrofitted to older Amigas, he said that the socketed nature of older Amigas meant that they could not reliably operate at the speed of the new chips.