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Offline visikeTopic starter

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Turbo cards...
« on: August 20, 2004, 03:55:08 PM »
Hello,

I am a totaly newbie.
I have found this on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=8142&item=5116070876

This brought up a couple of questions to me. I have an A1200 and I would like to use it with OS3.9. What is the HW requirement for this? (I already have the KS3.1, and a HDD but no extra card or memory)

Can somebody send a list that which turbo cards are the bests (eg: in an order) and how much they are cost usually!? I wouldn't mind also a note why it is in the given order.

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Re: Turbo cards...
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2004, 04:09:28 PM »
The Bilzzard1260 is a very good choice.. imho the best 68k turbocard for the A1200.. although this one looks like the DCE version which is of lower quality than the original Phase5 version..
As for the price, I have once bought one (a phase5 model) including scsi2 kit for ~130Eur.. and sold half a year later for ~160Eur or something.. but that was at ebay germany, in the uk amiga stuff is usually more expensive (that probably the reason this german guy sells it at ebay uk).. Personally I would not spend more than around 150-160Eur for a blizzard1260 without scsi kit.. this one might be worth a bit more because it has a 64MB module included..

But I have just seen that he ships to germany only.. don't know if this is a problem for you..
 

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Re: Turbo cards...
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2004, 04:48:01 PM »
Don't be so quick to judge the DCE B1260 boards. Their only crap line of products were the PPC cards, and from within those, mostly CSPPCs were in question and very few BPPCs. I used to own a DCE B1260 and I liked it much more than the Phase 5 version, since it was one of the last ever produced B1260 cards with a true 60Mhz 060 chip on it (made in 2002), clocked at 66Mhz and a SIMM socket designed specifically with tower units in mind, which enabled easy use of 128MB modules on both the SCSI kit and 1260 card itself.

So to summarize, DCE products are very well made, other than the notoriously piss poor PPC cards, that they produced.
 

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Re: Turbo cards...
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2004, 04:54:16 PM »
I'll agree.  My DCE made 1260 has never given me an ounce of trouble.  Didn't DCE manufacture the boards for Phase 5 anyway?
Time to move on.  Bye Amiga.org.  :(
 

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Re: Turbo cards...
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2004, 05:03:43 PM »
I am not sure how related they were, but probably very close. It could really be that Phase 5 used DCE facilities for manufacturing...my guess is as good as yours. :-? And, after Phase 5's bankrupcy, DCE simply decided to continue what P5 were doing, and bought out the licenses.
 

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Re: Turbo cards...
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2004, 05:44:38 PM »
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and a SIMM socket designed specifically with tower units in mind


No, they simply ran out of 90° SIMM sockets, thats all, but you can call that a feature if you want :D

On the subject of the relationship of P5 and DCE: There was absolut no connection between those two up to the time DCE bought the assets of the bancrupt P5. DCE got part of its productionfacilitys from P5.
Rumor has it that they didn`t pay the production streets in full and therefor BPlan (which consists of quite a lot ex P5 employees) was allowed to use it free of charge, but that is another story.

In general the quality of DCE cards is lower then those of P5. That doesn`t me they break down easyly, no, but they are poorer crafted. For example I got a DCE Blizzard 1260 that had the coinbatterie standing out quite well of the card. I had to bend it down to get the card in the trapdoor (this card still had a 90$ Simm socket) a B1240 I got only ran at 24MHz as they ran out of 50MHz crystals so the stuck a 48MHz one on it and I once had a BlizzardPPC that missed the specially shaped cooling block and had the fan mounted directly on the 603 (probably ran out of those cooling blocks too)
A B2060 had the 68k Socket soldered in with the pins only half way through at one side.

To make one thing clear I dont`t blame them for that. There was no other choice with the shrinking marked but to cut cost and that will show in the end in the product quality.
In general they work as good as the P5 cards but don`t look that "professional" made.

The thing with the easy breaking CSPPCs is that the original P5 cards were designed to the limit (such a big thing as a 68k socked as an SMD part, good grief) adding to this the slightly poorer productionquality and you end up where you are now.
Not really interesting, but it`s there.
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Re: Turbo cards...
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2004, 06:03:58 PM »
A very interesting read Lemmink.
 

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Re: Turbo cards...
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2004, 06:45:53 PM »
I will try to bid on it but if I won't win what else could you recommend? As far as I saw this card type (1260) is rather rare on eBay... How about an 1240 or 1230?

BTW: The guy is selling it on eBay.de but I use the eBay.co.uk because in this case I can at least understand some basics (eg: Ask seller, payment methodes...). I've asked the seller is he willing to send me outside Germany if I would pay the post and he was nice and answered me YES :)
 

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Re: Turbo cards...
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2004, 06:53:54 PM »
I'll sell you my 1230 :-P
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Re: Turbo cards...
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2004, 07:07:45 PM »
1240s are a bit hot for a desktop...
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