PPC equipped miggies

[x56h34]

Framiga,

One last try about the 604e (this just crossed my mind).
Turn on your Amiga and quickly try to run a PPC program and see if it works. Make sure that the accelerator itself hasn't been used for a while and is completely cool.

It could be that your PPC chip gets overheated pretty fast and needs some extra good cooling. This is of course a long-shot guess, but it's worth a try. I've seen PPC cards do this (e.g. the provided heatsink and fan are simply not enough, as there are revisions of 603e and 604e chips that just get way too hot after minutes of usage, or less).

[Eco]

I have one:

Blizzard PPC 040/25MHz + 603e/200MHz & BVision

[Chunder]

Cyberus wrote:
Blizzard PPC @ 240Mhz, mit 060 @ 50Mhz and SCSI
Bvision

Snap! (apart from the bit of German, of course!)

Doesn't get used anymore, though - my whole miggy set up is being sadly neglected :-(

[Framiga]

Hi x56h34

thanks for the suggestion but . . . already tryed :-(

i.e now i've installed PowerUP (for testings)

68060.library   v46.7     103636
ppcdiss.library  v0.49     61820
ppc.library   v46.31        162700

The first app that i try to launch is ShowPPC (just turning the system ON)

I get the message (after 5 seconds):

"Error- I need ppc.library 44+ . . Oh no!"

SnoopDos logging started on Venerdì, 20-Ago-04 at 15:31:32

 Count Process Name       Action     Target Name                 Options Res.
 ----- ------------       ------     -----------                 ------- ----
 
 9     ShowPPC            OpenLib    mathieeedoubtrans.library   Ver 37  OK  
 10    ShowPPC            OpenLib    mathieeedoubbas.library     Ver 45  OK  
 11    ShowPPC            OpenLib    utility.library             Ver 37  OK  
 12    ShowPPC            OpenLib    mathieeedoubbas.library     Ver 37  OK  
/13    ShowPPC            Open       CON://///AUTO/CLOSE         Read        
 14    CON                OpenLib    intuition.library           Ver 0   OK  
 15    CON                OpenLib    utility.library             Ver 0   OK  
\13    ShowPPC            Open       CON://///AUTO/CLOSE         Read    OK  
 16    ShowPPC            ChangeDir  AmigaOS:C                              
 17    ShowPPC            OpenLib    locale.library              Ver 38  OK  
 18    ShowPPC            OpenLib    iffparse.library            Ver 37  OK  
 19    ShowPPC            Open       PROGDIR:Catalogs/italiano/s Read    Fail
 20    ShowPPC            OpenLib    iffparse.library            Ver 37  OK  
 21    ShowPPC            Open       LOCALE:Catalogs/italiano/sh Read    Fail
 22    ShowPPC            OpenLib    cybergraphics.library       Ver 40  OK  
 23    ShowPPC            OpenLib    graphics.library            Ver 39  OK  
 24    ShowPPC            OpenLib    gadtools.library            Ver 39  OK  
 25    ShowPPC            OpenLib    intuition.library           Ver 39  OK  
 26    ShowPPC            OpenLib    asl.library                 Ver 37  OK  
 27    ShowPPC            OpenLib    reqtools.library            Ver 38  OK  
 28    ShowPPC            OpenLib    diskfont.library            Ver 39  OK  
 29    ShowPPC            OpenLib    workbench.library           Ver 39  OK  
 30    ShowPPC            OpenLib    icon.library                Ver 39  OK  
 31    ShowPPC            OpenLib    gtlayout.library            Ver 41  OK  
 32    ShowPPC            OpenLib    intuition.library           Ver 37  OK  
 33    ShowPPC            OpenLib    graphics.library            Ver 37  OK  
 34    ShowPPC            OpenLib    utility.library             Ver 37  OK  
 35    ShowPPC            OpenLib    gadtools.library            Ver 37  OK  
 36    ShowPPC            OpenLib    keymap.library              Ver 37  OK  
 37    ShowPPC            OpenLib    layers.library              Ver 37  OK  
 38    ShowPPC            OpenLib    locale.library              Ver 37  OK  
 39    ShowPPC            OpenLib    xpkmaster.library           Ver 4   OK  
/40    ShowPPC            OpenLib    ppc.library                 Ver 44      
 41    ramlib             Load       LIBS:ppc.library                    OK  
 42    ramlib             OpenLib    intuition.library           Ver 0   OK  
 43    ramlib             OpenLib    utility.library             Ver 0   OK  
 44    ramlib             OpenLib    graphics.library            Ver 0   OK  
 45    ramlib             OpenLib    68060.library               Ver 44  OK  
 46    ramlib             OpenRes    card.resource                       Fail
 47    ramlib             OpenLib    expansion.library           Ver 0   OK  
 48    ramlib             OpenRes    card.resource                       Fail
 49    ramlib             OpenLib    expansion.library           Ver 0   OK  
 50    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 51    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 52    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 53    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 54    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 55    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 56    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 57    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 58    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 59    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 60    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 61    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 62    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 63    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 64    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 65    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 66    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 67    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 68    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 69    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 70    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 71    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 72    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 73    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 74    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 75    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 76    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 77    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 78    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 79    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 80    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 81    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
 82    ramlib             OpenDev    timer.device                Unit 0  OK  
\40    ShowPPC            OpenLib    ppc.library                 Ver 44  Fail
 83    ShowPPC            OpenLib    iffparse.library            Ver 37  OK  
 84    ShowPPC            Open       PROGDIR:Catalogs/italiano/r Read    Fail
 85    ShowPPC            OpenLib    iffparse.library            Ver 37  OK  
 86    ShowPPC            Open       LOCALE:Catalogs/italiano/re Read    Fail
 87    ShowPPC            ChangeDir  SYS:                                    

Cheers :-)

EDIT- otherwise, if i delete the ppc.library, the error message, shows up immediatly.(without the 5 secs delay)

[Cyberus]

Chunder wrote:

Cyberus wrote:
Blizzard PPC @ 240Mhz, mit 060 @ 50Mhz and SCSI
Bvision

Snap! (apart from the bit of German, of course!)

Doesn't get used anymore, though - my whole miggy set up is being sadly neglected :-(

I was wondering if anyone would notice... :-)

[x56h34]

SysSpeed can test the speed of you PPC chip. You can try and run that test and see on which aspect it will fail, and that could potentially give away what part of the 604e is troublesome.

There's not much you can do if it is indeed broken. :-( Either send it to Amiga.fr, or DCE, and add another card to Dellert's ever growing collection of PPC cards. ;-)

[patrik]

@JJ:

I have a CyberStormPPC with 060@50MHz and 604e@200MHz plus a CyberVisionPPC for it. Unfortunately the CyberStormPPC is on repair for a flaky 68060 socket right now .


/Patrik

[Framiga]

@ x56h34

SysSpeed doesnt recognize the 604e at all.

BTW SysSpeed's PPC speed test, works only with WarPOS installed.

Already written to Hyperion 3-4 days ago . . . no reply yet (maybe holidays)

Amiga.fr is the only option ATM

Cheers

[Lemonty]

Hi! I own a Phase5 CyberStormPPC 604e@180/060@50 (the slowest PPC incarnation in CS range I believe.)

[Cyberus]

Is there not an 040 version? That'd be the slowest....

[x56h34]

@Framiga:

Have you tried using the card in a different Amiga? Perhaps you messed something up in your SYS: partition and now the card is acting up.

Try this for a quick test.

Get a WB3.1 boot floppy and clear out all unnecessary things from it so that you could have space to put the following stuff on it.
Install 68040.library (dummy) and 68060.library to LIBS:
Install the WarpUP libraries to LIBS:
Get UNLZX (WarpUP version) from Aminet and include it on the floppy.
Put a small LZX archive somewhere on the floppy as well.
Try to unarchive the LZX archive with UNLZX and see if it works.
If it does, your PPC cpu is fine.

This is a useful way of testing your PPC cpu, as the system is very simple (e.g just the WB3.1 boot disk), and could maybe indicate that your OS3.9 setup or whatever you originally use with CSPPC is actually bad.

[Framiga]

OK thanks . . .i'll try :-)

Cheers

[DanDude]

Cyberstom MKIII Motorola 68060 @ 50MHz / PowerPC 603e @ 233MHz inside my A4000T with Cybergraphix PPC videocard attached and using SCSI3 port to operate my 3 very fast spinning SCSI (SCA) drives.

[rayt]

Is there not an 040 version? That'd be the slowest....

Yes, and also don't forget the early/developer versions that only had a 150Mhz PPC..

[Lemmink]

CSPPC 200/060 CVPPC in A4000T
BPPC 266/060 @ 60 G-Rex1200 in A1200T
MKII 060 with PowerUP module 603 @ 150 MHZ in A4000D
BPPC 210/060 spare (no I`m not selling it)
CSPPC 180/040 @ 33 G-Rex A4000D
CSPPC 233/060 probably broken PPC
CSPPC 200/060 totaly dead card :-(

[cgutjahr]

BlizzardPPC @ 210 Mhz, 68040/25, SCSI
BlizzardVision
96 MB RAM