What drives your car?

[Dandy]

whabang wrote:
Don't worry. I'm sure that someone will construct a car with a hyrdogen-driven combustion engine. :-D

Not necessary - we already did:

We at Ford developed the hydrogen internal combustion engine (ICE) as an interim solution to generate already today an demand for hydrogen fuel and to build up an supply net.

We presented this technique to German Federal Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder on 13th of July 2004 and are currently testing it in a Ford Focus C-Max Prototype:

http://www.ford.com/en/innovation/engineFuelTechnology/hydrogenInternalCombustion.htm

[gizz72]

Greetings,

@Dandy

That's is awsome. :-)
By any chance, how much is a gallon of Hydrogen fuel cell in the market today?

Regards,

Gizz

[cecilia]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
.....I can't imagine any electricity-driven motor that is powerfull enough for such a ship.

i saw a show about various alternative energy cars and someone drove their electric car to Las Vegas. without refueling.

time to get stock in Li-Ion batteries.

[Dandy]

gizz72 wrote:
...
By any chance, how much is a gallon of Hydrogen fuel cell in the market today?

Regards,

Gizz

Hi gizz,
I'm not sure if I got your question fully.

I could find out how many liters a gallon is.

A fuel cell is a device to produce electrical power from hydrogene without emissions aside from clean water and heat. Normally there are many (~100) fuel cells packed together to one device.

But I certainly can't tell you "how much a gallon of Hydrogen fuel cell is in the market today"...

 :-?  :-o :-? :-o :-?  

[gizz72]

Greetings Dandy,

how much a gallon of Hydrogen fuel cell is in the market today

Oops,:oops: hehe sorry.. :-D

-Rephrase-
What I mean was how much would a Hydrogen Fuel cell costs to local consumers once it's released? I hope it's not as expensive as crude?


Regards,

Gizz

[T_Bone]

gizz72 wrote:
Greetings Dandy,

how much a gallon of Hydrogen fuel cell is in the market today

Oops,:oops: hehe sorry.. :-D

-Rephrase-
What I mean was how much would a Hydrogen Fuel cell costs to local consumers once it's released? I hope it's not as expensive as crude?


Regards,

Gizz

I imagine if it were cheaper, we'd be using it now. It's hard to beat gasoline for cheap power.

[Dandy]

gizz72 wrote:
Greetings Dandy,

how much a gallon of Hydrogen fuel cell is in the market today

Oops,:oops: hehe sorry.. :-D

:-D
You're welcome...
:-D

gizz72 wrote:
-Rephrase-
What I mean was how much would a Hydrogen Fuel cell costs to local consumers once it's released? I hope it's not as expensive as crude?


Regards,

Gizz

I really can't tell you - all I can say is that the prototype Ford Mondeo with Fuel Cell Technologie did cost about five million US-$ two years ago...

[gizz72]

Greetings,

dandy wrote:
I really can't tell you - all I can say is that the prototype Ford Mondeo with Fuel Cell Technologie did cost about five million US-$ two years ago...

:bump: Ouch!


Thanks ;-)

Regards,

Gizz

[Dandy]

gizz72 wrote:
Greetings,

dandy wrote:
I really can't tell you - all I can say is that the prototype Ford Mondeo with Fuel Cell Technologie did cost about five million US-$ two years ago...

:bump: Ouch!


Thanks ;-)

Regards,

Gizz

I think that's why our top management is oviously considering the hydrogene internal combustion engine as an interims solution.
An internal combustion engine does not need that much modification to be capable to be run with hydrogene and therefor is much chaeper than the fuel cell/electric engine
solution.

[FluffyMcDeath]

T_Bone wrote:

I imagine if it were cheaper, we'd be using it now. It's hard to beat gasoline for cheap power.

Diesel.

[T_Bone]

FluffyMcDeath wrote:

T_Bone wrote:

I imagine if it were cheaper, we'd be using it now. It's hard to beat gasoline for cheap power.

Diesel.

Hey, I'd love to go all diesel, but the treehuggers would complain about the additional NOx.

[KennyR]

NOx is no problem - get a catalytic converter. The particulates are a problem, however. Nothing like 40 nanometre soot particles to ruin your lungs.

[T_Bone]

KennyR wrote:
NOx is no problem - get a catalytic converter. The particulates are a problem, however. Nothing like 40 nanometre soot particles to ruin your lungs.

"...smells like... victory."  :-)

[Speelgoedmannetje]

T_Bone wrote:

KennyR wrote:
NOx is no problem - get a catalytic converter. The particulates are a problem, however. Nothing like 40 nanometre soot particles to ruin your lungs.

"...smells like... victory."  :-)

hum, no, he only mentioned lungs
dunno what happens if this NOx gets in your blood via your skin or so...

(it's hard or even impossible to predict what happens to human and nature when you put unnatural amounts of a certain substance in the environment)

[blobrana]

hum,

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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
.....I can't imagine any electricity-driven motor that is powerfull enough for such a ship.

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i came across American Superconductor Corporation, an electricity solutions company, that today announced that its prototype 5-megawatt (MW) High Temperature Superconductor (HTS) ship propulsion motor has been demonstrated successfully at full load, under steady state operational conditions.

Story here.

[sumner7]

What drives your car?

Milk.