Going back to the Mental Hospital

[Karlos]

@JonoPike

Wear a nasty mixture of nylon, cotton, polyester etc. and roll around the carpet for a bit before doing a runner. The static build up will fettle that pesky id chip.

Unfortunately, cunning as this plan is, it has the principal downside that you will look a total ****...

[KennyR]

Karlos wrote:
Whichever site you are referring to, nobody is forcing you to use it. If you dont like the site, don't go there - especially if the site is geared towards any of the platforms other than the one you use.

Easy to say, but when the said site then uses its extremely selective membership setup for various forms of slander and/or propaganda and won't let anyone contest it, then things get personal.

[GadgetMaster]

KennyR wrote:

Easy to say, but when the said site then uses its extremely selective membership setup for various forms of slander and/or propaganda and won't let anyone contest it, then things get personal.

Oh come on! You are acting way below your normal  intelligence levels.

AmigaWorld.Net is only a website. Its run by whom it is run and they have their policies as does every other site. I think you have got it through to everybody by now that you have negative energy channelled in that direction.

Using any given chance to bash it is just childish. Mentally disturbed Amiga users? Now that was below the belt.

This obsession can cause mental instability.

Time to get over it methinks.  :-D

[Karlos]

Easy to say, easy to do. I find MacOSX a totally overrated, massively hyped product that mac users never stop raving about like its better than sex.

Yet I find it irritating in the extreme. Its more zealously conformist than windows even. Try customising the interface to your own personal taste. Like getting rid of that eyestrain scanlines texture or brushed metal (neither of which are consistently applied throughout the system), or changing the global text highlight colours to be inverted for selected text etc. Or disabling annoying and ultimately useless excess animation in the GUI. In short, you can't. You are forced to accept Apples definition of what is cool and funky, like it or not. The only chance you have is to go in manually and edit a bunch of plist files.

But these are my personal opinions and I don't need to express it on various MacOS community sites, {bleep} about it and tell them AmigaOS is superior, get moderated and then complain about it on other sites.

[KennyR]

Gadgetmaster wrote:
Using any given chance to bash it is just childish. Mentally disturbed Amiga users? Now that was below the belt.

Yes, I'm sure such mindless optimism, self-delusion and name-focus is natural and forms the psychological buildup of every human being. I'm just weird. Maybe I should just put my energies into petitioning for a G5 AmigaONE and try to forget the fact that I ever doubted the commercial powers that be.

[GadgetMaster]

You know what, I dislike smokers so I tend not sit in their corner.

That way I never have to let it bug me.

If I got obsessive about it people would call me mad.

Pot & Kettle calling the stove black? :lol:

[Karlos]

KennyR wrote:

Yes, I'm sure such mindless optimism, self-delusion and name-focus is natural and forms the psychological buildup of every human being.

Probably drinking too much tapwater ;-)

For the record, I think the amigaworld.net people are generally quite optimistic about their system of choice. Then so are the morphzone folk. But neither are obsessively optimistic - there are a few highly vocal zealots on each side and a relatively quiet majority of normal users.

Seeing the way you lump together and deride the entire community base of a site puts you visibly at the former end of the spectrum. It also appears you can't even address the fact that you insult so many people in such a fashion without further derision.

[KennyR]

...there are a few highly vocal zealots on each side and a relatively quiet majority of normal users.

...so why make them moderators?

If you think I'm being obsessive, then go ahead and think that. This long ago got personal, and if I can't strike against the blatant and obvious lies posted on that site (often by from the people employed directly in the companies involved), then I'm sure I'll find other ways to protest. If I can do it with subtlety, I will, but since Wayne thought I meant him and destroyed that, I'll resort to stridency. Either way, I get my point across.

[GadgetMaster]

KennyR wrote:
Either way, I get my point across.

That, my friend, you do. :-)

[Karlos]

...so why make them moderators?

So why attack the users if the moderators are the people you have an issue with?

If you think I'm being obsessive, then go ahead and think that. This long ago got personal, and if I can't strike against the blatant and obvious lies posted on that site (often by from the people employed directly in the companies involved), then I'm sure I'll find other ways to protest. If I can do it with subtlety, I will, but since Wayne thought I meant him and destroyed that, I'll resort to stridency.

And insinuating the users are all mental achieves this?

Either way, I get my point across.

But you don't get your point across (at least with your initial remark), that's the problem. You just end up looking like a petty tosspot taking cheap shots at users who frequent another site. Many of whom also frequent this and other sites.

If you think there is a deliberate smear campaign going on, then sure, discuss it away. But don't just slag off the ordinary users, it's contemptible.

[KennyR]

Karlos wrote:
But you don't get your point across (at least with your initial remark), that's the problem. You just end up looking like a petty tosspot taking cheap shots at users who frequent another site. Many of whom also frequent this and other sites.

It's strange how everyone knows what site I'm talking about, isn't it (well, apart from Wayne). I think this says all I needed to say. Infamy is its own reward. I'm not the only one to take offence over the years.

If you think there is a deliberate smear campaign going on, then sure, discuss it away. But don't just slag off the ordinary users, it's contemptible.

I don't think it's anything as coherent as a deliberate campaign (not even this supposed exodus they set up from AO). But it simply does nothing for its reputation when it overtly instils such fanatacism in people. Some of its moderators are among the most obnoxious trolls every to grace an Amiga forum and seem to take a delight rewarding extremist views. While trying to remain respectable in public they are the type who will spoof as another user and post obsceneties (yeah, we got them when Moo revealed its IPs!) or abuse their power to launch personal attacks. (Having the ANN and Moobunny archives available really changes your view of the Amiga community, you wouldn't believe it!)

Even two of the more mature moderators there were kicked out off Amiga.org for causing trouble and abusing its rules, that's something I've never even managed yet. With those people behind the wheel moderating with all the subtlety and balance as the Reverend Ian Paisley does in Northern Ireland, that site is a magnet and a reward for zealots. How can ordinary users visit it? (Certainly I'm not allowed to, even though I've never made an offensive comment of any sort there. Which is why now I use different nicks to different sites, so small minded prats like that can't get at me again.)

What was the story last week...ah, that all MorphOS users were pirates and didn't want to pay for software so Epic should just wake up and make software for OS4 instead? Or the usual "MOS/MUI/CGX/Rave3D is crap, xxx rulez" threads. I mean, how would you feel if MOS users made such a site and set up all the most extreme of them as moderators, spread lies about OS4, and simply moderated or shouted out anyone who contested them?

[Karlos]

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I can tell which site you mean simply because (1) it's already been pointed out and (2) this is not the first time you have made such remarks about it or its userbase. Whilst I accept your issue is with the site and how it is run, I don't think it justifies your attack on the userbase.

You are entitled to your views on this and any other issues, but I do wish you'd excercise some degree of restraint before liberally tarring everybody in any particular group you have issues with with the same brush.

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I mean, how would you feel if MOS users made such a site and set up all the most extreme of them as moderators, spread lies about OS4, and simply moderated or shouted out anyone who contested them?

Personally, I wouldn't care a less - which I thought would have been obvious from my stance thus far. I simply wouldn't bother with such a site and nor would I regard its views as typical of the average MorphOS user.

The whole Red v Blue thing is a complete farce IMHO. The only potential benefit it has is that each platform will strive harder to produce a better product than they would otherwise achieve without the competition.

[PMC]

Karlos wrote:

The whole Red v Blue thing is a complete farce IMHO. The only potential benefit it has is that each platform will strive harder to produce a better product than they would otherwise achieve without the competition.

Damn right and well said!  

I'm reminded of the scene in "The Life of Brian" where the Popular Front of Judea are slagging off the Judean People's Front...  An irony that seems to have dawned on many here.

[Cyberus]

Karlos wrote:

You are entitled to your views on this and any other issues, but I do wish you'd excercise some degree of restraint before liberally tarring everybody in any particular group you have issues with with the same brush.

Kenny make a sweeping statment? Never!


I belong to neither camp. I suppose I am a 'classic' fan, and in some sense perhaps I should frequent AW...

Well, AOrg is where I came first when I returned to the Amiga, and I've been really happy with all the help I've received. I do read the odd thread at AW, but haven't got round to registering there.

To be honest, all the Red vs Blue blue business isn't very relevant to me. I haven't decided on a NextGen system. At the moment, all the bickering and arguing seems to be about as important as a row in the local truckers cafe over which is better, Tomato Ketchup or Brown Sauce.

The one thing that does turn me off of the 'Red' camp is too many boing balls, 'get boinged' merchandise and other cheese. Its a computer platform, not a football team...

[GadgetMaster]

KennyR wrote:
It's strange how everyone knows what site I'm talking about

Come on, you only have a reputation for bitc_hing about that particular site.

Let me try to understand this. You hate AW.net you hate its moderators, you hate its users, heck you even hate the sites 'magnetism' for attracting a particular colour of Amiga user. You say this was due to you being banned. So simply put this is all about a grudge?

From your postings it seems that your emotions are beyond the stage where you can just ignore the thing and just get on. Every so often you feel the need to vent some steam to make yourself feel better. Am I right so far?

But to turn a  humorous thread into a bitter negative moan, groan, bit_ch and whine affair is just silly.

You claim that you do not care how you are perceived yet you state that you would have liked the chance to put right lies and slander.

Is this normal or were you just having a bad day? :-?

[blobrana]

@KennyR


Infiltrate and destroy...