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3 more products added Catweasel etc
« on: August 04, 2004, 11:34:45 PM »
Quick note, 3 more products added.

Catweasel ISA is back in stock for $65.
The Catweasel MKIII is sold out, and the Catweasel MKIV isn't out yet. If you need a Catweasel for your PC and it has an ISA, this is for you.

Buddha - $65.00
New item!

Silver Surfer - $40
New item!

Enjoy:-)
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Re: 3 more products added Catweasel etc
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2004, 04:58:29 PM »
Anyone have any experience with using the Buddha in an A3000? Since I have so many small (but still in the GB range) IDE hard drives I've collected over the years, I thought it would make more sense to use one of these than to seek out a larger SCSI drive.

Is the performance as good if not better that the A3000's SCSI? I'm sure this will also depend on what drive mechanism I choose to use.

What IDE specification does the Buddha compare to in the PC world? Is it considered UDMA? Judging by the cable in the photo, I know it isn't UDMA-66.


 

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Re: 3 more products added Catweasel etc
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2004, 05:00:02 PM »
Does anyone know if there is even an expected date for the Catweasel MKIV release?  That will be the PCI version right?  Thanks!
 

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Re: 3 more products added Catweasel etc
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2004, 05:10:15 PM »
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Does anyone know if there is even an expected date for the Catweasel MKIV release?

October 2004.

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That will be the PCI version right?

I think there is only the PCI version.

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Re: 3 more products added Catweasel etc
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2004, 05:21:32 PM »
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Anyone have any experience with using the Buddha in an A3000?


I've used it in an Amiga 3000 before. It works quite well actually, and is shocking simple to setup:-) You can even boot off the Buddha.

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Is the performance as good if not better that the A3000's SCSI?


That would depend on the drive largely. The performance seemed to be on level with the built in SCSI, but I honestly never ran benchmarks. The nice thing is you can use absurbly large HD sizes cheap, where SCSI would be expensive.

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What IDE specification does the Buddha compare to in the PC world? Is it considered UDMA?


No way to UDMA, the Buddha does not DMA. I'd guess it probably is comparable to PIO-3 or PIO-4. Even the newest UDMA drives are backwards compatible though, so they will work.
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Re: 3 more products added Catweasel etc
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2004, 05:23:41 PM »
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Does anyone know if there is even an expected date for the Catweasel MKIV release?  That will be the PCI version right?  Thanks!


There is no announced release date AFAIK, though it is my understanding I should have stock by mid October.

Yes this version will be PCI only. There will be Prometheus drivers though, so Classic Amiga users won't be left out:-)
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Re: 3 more products added Catweasel etc
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2004, 05:27:41 PM »
That sounds cool. Are there any improvements over the past models?
 

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Re: 3 more products added Catweasel etc
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2004, 05:33:38 PM »
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That sounds cool. Are there any improvements over the past models?


Whoa boy, too much to quote here. I don't want to piss off the moderators:-D

CLICKY CLICKY

See? Too many improvements to list here:-)
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Re: 3 more products added Catweasel etc
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2004, 05:54:06 PM »
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That would depend on the drive largely. The performance seemed to be on level with the built in SCSI, but I honestly never ran benchmarks. The nice thing is you can use absurbly large HD sizes cheap, where SCSI would be expensive.


Quite true. Much more cost effective this way. I could adapt my 9GB UW SCSI HD internally but it runs too hot and noisy. My only concern with the Buddha is how to run the ribbon cable across the A3K's expansion slot card. Hopefully, it won't be obstructed once the case is put back on.

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No way to UDMA, the Buddha does not DMA. I'd guess it probably is comparable to PIO-3 or PIO-4. Even the newest UDMA drives are backwards compatible though, so they will work.


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Re: 3 more products added Catweasel etc
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2004, 06:46:19 PM »
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No way to UDMA, the Buddha does not DMA. I'd guess it probably is comparable to PIO-3 or PIO-4.


PIO-3 or PIO-4? :-o

As a distributor of the Buddha card you should rather know that it works in PIO-0 only.

Due to the limitation of the Zorro II interface this card  cannot even reach in A2/3/4000 computers the full PIO-0 speed.  
 

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Re: 3 more products added Catweasel etc
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2004, 06:57:54 PM »
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No way to UDMA, the Buddha does not DMA. I'd guess it probably is comparable to PIO-3 or PIO-4.


PIO-3 or PIO-4? :-o

As a distributor of the Buddha card you should rather know that it works in PIO-0 only.

Due to the limitation of the Zorro II interface this card  cannot even reach in A2/3/4000 computers the full PIO-0 speed.  


D'oh!! So, what does tha mean in terms of performance comparable to the A3K's SCSI? Have we just fallen a couple of notches?!?

 

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Re: 3 more products added Catweasel etc
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2004, 07:10:42 PM »
tjaoz:

I suppose you wanna recommend FastATA4000 at this point?
You make me sick, you know that?

Just for the record, I own both cards (Catweasel S-Class and FastATA4000 mk.2) and due to versatility of the S-Class card, I have decided to DEFINITELY...100% remove the FastATA4000 from my system, as the speed differece was barely noticeable between IDE/ATA operation between the Buddha and FastATA4000. Sure FastATA4000 was slightly faster, but it was honestly barely noticeable.

If you bothered to do a little research, you would have known that Buddha comes with a little speed setting utility which enables higher PIO modes than mode 0, if the user should require it, and thus makes the working speed with IDE devices almost on par with FastATA4000. What am I saying, of course you know this. It's just that you work for Elbox and you are required to slander all the other products out there. I bet that you are the same guy that checks the temperature in Krakow and determines whether it's cold or hot enough for discounts. :lol:
 

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Re: 3 more products added Catweasel etc
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2004, 07:14:12 PM »
@tjaoz

I know, I know. You want people to buy Elbox's Fast ATA controller, no suprise here.

BTW the Fast ATA controller is dreadful. Who the hell can live with 100% CPU load(!!!) on a 68060 and still only get 8MB/s?
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Re: 3 more products added Catweasel etc
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2004, 07:15:56 PM »
ive got a powerflyer gold in my miggy A1200, is that not DMA, and what sort of load does it put on my cpu, just curious, never looked into it
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Re: 3 more products added Catweasel etc
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2004, 07:19:55 PM »
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No way to UDMA, the Buddha does not DMA. I'd guess it probably is comparable to PIO-3 or PIO-4.


PIO-3 or PIO-4? :-o

As a distributor of the Buddha card you should rather know that it works in PIO-0 only.

Due to the limitation of the Zorro II interface this card  cannot even reach in A2/3/4000 computers the full PIO-0 speed.  




Thats a load of crap! I used one in my A3000 for a few years in the form of a catweasel s class card. They are built together on that one. It got software that lets you select your PIO mode. I had it at 4 with no problems. It was MUCH faster then my internal SCSI but not near the speeds of the SCSI on my CSPPC card.
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