how to format an ide hard drive on A4000

[lolof]

Hello,

I try to install a harddrive 10 giga(master) on my a4000.
I start with the install disk (os3,1) and the start hdtoolbox.
I configure the hd with 2 4giga partition, save and exit.
Then I restart the computer with the disk workbench.

I cannot see the 2 partitions that i create, they dont mount and I am not able to format them.

I am novice.

What can I do ??

Thanks

[SilvrDrgn]

OS 3.1 cannot handle drives bigger than 4 Gig without patches.  You have to apply either the TD64 patches or the NSD patches (or maybe a combination of the two ... not sure).  Search on Aminet for them.  Or upgrade to OS 3.5 or 3.9 as they both can handle drives bigger than 4 Gig.

[lolof]

It means that if i only have the diskette OS3.1 and a 10 giga Hardrive, there is no way to use the a4000 ??  

[blobrana]

Hum,
you are doing everything ok...

Have you tried a soft reset... hold down the ctrl-amigaL-amigaR keys?

Partition them with 2 x 4 gb and a 2gb...

[doctorq]

No, but you have to patch your system in order to use a 10 GB hdd on your A4k. The other solution is as mentioned to upgrade your OS to v3.5 or v3.9 as these operation systems has an updated FastFileSystem.

[Effy]

Sorry, you really need the program HDtoolbox and this can only be found on the disc called `Install 3.1´ and not on ´Workbench 3.1´ ...
If you only can boot with your Workbench floppy then you may be able to do the following :
check in your directory Storage:Dosdrivers if there is a file called ´PC0´ and copy this to the directory Devs:Dosdrivers and then reboot. Now you have made your DF0 internal drive also PC compatible, meaning that you can insert a 720Mb PC formatted floppy, and before you do that you can search on Aminet (using your pc probably) for a HDtoolbox-like program and copy that on the floppy that you can insert in your Amiga. It´s a clumsy way, I know, but an Amiga does not have standard support for a bootable CDrom like Windows things do ...
Another thing you can do is to ask a friend who has got an Amiga with kickstart 3.1 and OS3.9 to make an ´Emergency Disk´ that allows you to boot and install your harddrive ...

[TjLaZer]

Try to make a partitions of less than 4GB.  Like one 800MB for DH0: and 1.2GB for DH1: and 2GB for DH2:  See if that works for now.  If so then you can get the updated FFS and use the rest later.

[blobrana]

@TjLaZer
Good idea...
Info here



@the rest
What?
Doesn`t anybody here read pervious posts...?
Can you not read his/her mind?

Do you think she/he`s lying when he said he started HDtoolbox?

The hard drive isn`t spinning up in time to be recognised by the computer - solution reset to format...






or not...

[lolof]

Thank you all for your help.

blobrana, what do you mean with " - solution reset to format...
"

Thanks

[blobrana]

Hehe,
soft reset to get the spin speed of the HardDrives up, so the computer recognises it...

There’s another thread here on how to change the maxtransferspeed...

But the important thing here is to get the HD recognised...and formatted so you can install the OS...




Let us know how you got on...

[Thomas]

@blobrana: don't talk mud. *You* are the one who has to read the previous posts. Lolof said, he has already created partitions, so the HDD *is* recognised. No sight of the slow-spin-up problem here.

@lolof: as the others have told you, with Kick 3.1 you are not able to use more than the first 4GB of the drive. So create some small partitions (all together less than 4GB) and see if it works.

Then you can download and install the required patches and partition the other 6GB of the drive.

You actually need two patches: one updated IDE driver and one updated file system.

IDE driver could be IDEfix, filesystem can be TD64 patch for FFS or a third party file system like SFS or PFS3.

If you consider upgrading to OS3.5 or 3.9, both come with all the required patches.

Bye,
Thomas

[blobrana]

@Thomas
Hum,
perhaps....




Yes i know he created 2 partitions so it was recognised by HDToolbox...
But he cannot see  anything, not even an NDOS when it boots , which implies that not even the first partitions is seen...my guess of a slow spin up is a plausible solution , if you think it`s mud, then please tell me why that solution would not be correct... :-)

[lolof]

Yes, it works now, I have installed os3.1.
It was just a jumper on the hard drive, it was set "master", I removed it and it wor well. I thought thas was correct, the hd was alone on the ide port but i remove the jumper and all is ok.

now, the next step :

I only have a scsi cd player and of course a scsi card.
There is only a jumper on ID1 on the cd player. I thik its correct.

Wenn I introduce a cd, it doesn't mount on the workbench.
I thik miss a driver or somwhatelse.
What do I want

[blobrana]

Doh!

lucky you thought of the pin settings...

As for the CD rom drivers
 
have a look  here


:-)

[PMC]

lolof wrote:
It was just a jumper on the hard drive, it was set "master", I removed it and it wor well. I thought thas was correct, the hd was alone on the ide port but i remove the jumper and all is ok.

I only have a scsi cd player and of course a scsi card.
There is only a jumper on ID1 on the cd player. I thik its correct.

Wenn I introduce a cd, it doesn't mount on the workbench.
I thik miss a driver or somwhatelse.

@lolof

At least we're up and running now with the Hard Drive, you've got an OS installed thus far.

Sorry to go through this again, but you say your CD ROM is a SCSI unit mounted via a SCSI card?

I'm pretty much a SCSI virgin so other guys / gals here know more about it than I do, but you should see some sort of CD icon on the workbench if you insert any CD regardless of it's type.

Worst case scenario is a trip to PC World and shelling out twenty five rubs for an IDE CD ROM, but IIRC they don't fit in the A4000's case particularly well.