Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Author Topic: Ebay Fraud  (Read 7620 times)

Description:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline lorddef

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2002
  • Posts: 1149
    • Show only replies by lorddef
    • http://
Re: Ebay Fraud
« Reply #14 from previous page: July 30, 2004, 03:20:25 PM »
Have you ever used a telephone before? I've had situations before, and a quick phonecall usually sorts it.  If you are really worried, emails are just to indirect, and to be honest you are just fannying around.  Get an awconfirm from ebay and phone him.
Restraining orders are just another way of saying I love you!
 

Offline EnyGmaTiKTopic starter

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: May 2004
  • Posts: 102
    • Show only replies by EnyGmaTiK
    • http://enygmatik.deviantart.com/
Re: Ebay Fraud
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2004, 07:24:10 PM »
The problem is ... i don't speak german THAT good....

But i guess i will do that...
 

Offline Hyperspeed

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2004
  • Posts: 1749
    • Show only replies by Hyperspeed
Re: Ebay Fraud
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2004, 08:00:56 PM »
I bought something from a guy who had nearly 200x positives and he
turned out to be trading as a woman too. Ripped me off and the
previous account went NARU, no doubt he's done it to others too.

Sometimes feedback is not always a good indicator if you're going to
get conned.

I was told by eBay that because the item was below £15 that I wasn't
covered under their own policy. If I had used PayPal I would have
been.

The only option to take really is to get a summons form from your
local courthouse for the Small Claims Court. If the seller doesn't
respond to a summons the cops will go and drag them there!

:-D :-D :-D
 

Offline EnyGmaTiKTopic starter

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: May 2004
  • Posts: 102
    • Show only replies by EnyGmaTiK
    • http://enygmatik.deviantart.com/
Re: Ebay Fraud
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2004, 02:18:18 PM »
Update.

The telephone nr that the seller has in the seller's account is false, so i'm stuck... i gave him a neg. feedback and lost 30eur

Hurray for e-bay
 

Offline redrumloa

  • Original Omega User
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2002
  • Posts: 10126
    • Show only replies by redrumloa
Re: Ebay Fraud
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2004, 02:22:08 PM »
@EnyGmaTiK

I'm sorry to hear that:-( Did you file a fraud report with eBay?
Someone has to state the obvious and that someone is me!
 

Offline Acill

Re: Ebay Fraud
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2004, 02:29:33 PM »
Things are so out of controll on ebay these days. It shows the true face of so many people out there. i've been ripped off no less then 10 times from people. Most of them using Paypal. All I accept now is a money order and personal checks sent registered mail so I can track them. I prefer a bank check since I can call the bank to verify funds.
Proud Retired Navy Chief!

A4000T - CSPPC - Mediator
Powerbook G4 15", 17"
Powermac G5 2GHZ
AmigaOne X5000
Need Amiga recap or other services in the US? Visit my website at http://www.acill.com and take a look or on facebook at http://facebook.com/acillclassics
 

Offline Holley

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2004
  • Posts: 888
    • Show only replies by Holley
    • http://www.Front-Runners.net
Re: Ebay Fraud
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2004, 03:13:49 PM »
There's also many very good, competative & honest traders, too.  It's proportional to buying/selling in person IMO, at least you've not bought a stolen car or something of that scale!
\\"Sex, drugs and rock n\\\' roll are very good for you\\" - Ian Dury
 

Offline EnyGmaTiKTopic starter

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: May 2004
  • Posts: 102
    • Show only replies by EnyGmaTiK
    • http://enygmatik.deviantart.com/
Re: Ebay Fraud
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2004, 08:02:01 PM »
Quote

redrumloa wrote:
@EnyGmaTiK

I'm sorry to hear that:-( Did you file a fraud report with eBay?


Yep, of course, 1 month ago, I even file a fraud report at that Square Deal thingie, they tried too to contact the seller without luck...

I've been involved in 15 transactions at ebay, and lost 60eur on two of them... i think i will avoid ebay in the next 20 years  :pissed:
 

Offline Floid

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2003
  • Posts: 918
    • Show only replies by Floid
Re: Ebay Fraud
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2004, 08:40:39 PM »
Quote

Acill wrote:
Things are so out of controll on ebay these days. It shows the true face of so many people out there. i've been ripped off no less then 10 times from people. Most of them using Paypal. All I accept now is a money order and personal checks sent registered mail so I can track them. I prefer a bank check since I can call the bank to verify funds.
Hmm.  I know it's possible to be screwed with a cashier's check, but I forget how... while calling first probably does help.

Personally, I prefer PayPal when buying, because I at least  know the seller can't claim payment was lost (dragging things out past eBay's N day limit for complaints), and have a combination of eBay, PayPal, and Visa/MC to run screaming to if I do get hosed.  (Making insurance an extra cost is rather lame, but at the same time, if I were blowing more than $100, I'd consider it...)  

However, I'm just going to point out the converse:  When a seller's not going to accept instant payment, I want to hear back a) when the payment is received, and b) when the item is shipped, preferrably by a trackable service so I can *know* it's really en route.  Doing otherwise with expensive stuff just invites drama and the risk of tragedy...

...That said as I cross my fingers on a seller who seems legitimate, but has hopefully just been too 'green' to affirm a) without prompting, and rejected b) for his own convenience (fair enough for him to prefer the USPS's insurance for *his* protection, but it puts the buyer in a nasty, paranoid spot until the item actually shows, with no way to affirm trust if it does get lost in shipping).

[In other words, I accept my risk of getting screwed, but sellers, if you're going to be honest, remember to confirm that honesty to your customers so *they* won't get heartburn in the process!  If this item doesn't show, I've got little choice but to jump on the guy whether or not he's done wrong... Whereas with UPS, I'd be able to see that they decided to route it through Tampa or something and lay off.]
 

Offline TjLaZer

Re: Ebay Fraud
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2004, 12:03:41 AM »
@Acill

How did you get ripped of with Paypal?  Just curious.
Going Bananas over AMIGAs since 1987...

Looking for Fusion Fourty PNG ROMs V3.4?

:flame: :banana: :banana: :banana:
 

Offline Cyberus

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2003
  • Posts: 5696
    • Show only replies by Cyberus
Re: Ebay Fraud
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2004, 01:55:44 AM »
I've heard a few cases of PayPal fraud. One was a guy I bought some stuff from on ebay. He was a nice guy, invited me in for a cup of tea...anyway, he got a PayPal payment from a seemingly American user, but a shipping address in Estonia, before he had the chance to send the goods PayPal were in touch telling him not to do anything while they investigated.
i.e. they know its going on


edit: I forgot to say...always, always use a credit card if you can, cos then you've got the CC company on your side if you get ripped. All CC providers (at least in UK, dunno if its  a legal requirement, or just 'the norm') offer lots of protection you probably didn't know about.
I got ripped for over 300 quid on ebay, but the CC company recovered the lot, bar the laughable 30 quid that PayPal gave me.
I like Amigas
 

Offline Schoenfeld

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Mar 2004
  • Posts: 175
    • Show only replies by Schoenfeld
    • http://icomp.de
Re: Ebay Fraud
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2004, 02:07:11 AM »
I've tried finding the telephone number using www.telefonbuch.de (public phone directory of Germany), but there's nobody named Schulz in that street.

What you could try is finding out if the street really exists using www.map24.de - maybe it's a really short street, and you only have a few phone numbers to look for. If you're not lucky, the street and number is a big building with lots of people having the same address (it's not usual to add app#'s to the address in Germany).

There are phone directory CDs out there that allow reverse-lookups, so you could also try if the number you have has been assigned at some point, and try to contact the person that is was assigned to. Maybe there's a connection.

Schulz is a very common name in Germany. If this guy/girl intended to rip someone off, you'll have no luck using the name. 30EUR is not all that much, but you have the headers of the eMails, and those contain the IP address that the person was using at the time it was sent. All German internet providers have an obligation to store the IP address assignments for six months.

Jens Schoenfeld