Start an Amiga 4000D

[lolof]

Hello,
I am new in the amiga world.
I have receive an amiga 4000D that I try to start.
I try to start from floppy, I dont have now a hd.
I start the 4000 and wait about 20 secondes and I can see the amiga logo with a floppy and a hand image.
I tryed to start it from 4 floppy disk (amigaos3.1) but the result is always the same (logo amiga). The floppy seems to run a few second, stop, and then come the amiga logo.
It seems that I have not the install and workbench disk that's why i try starting on the others one.
Is that Normal ??
Thank you

[Jope]

You need a bootable disk, any old disk won't do.

Only the Install and Workbench disk of the 3.1 set are bootable.

[lolof]

OK, thank you, I will try to find them. ebay perhaps !!
What's the speedest accelerator card for the 4000 ?
I have receive one with the a4000, it's written Cyberstorm MK 2 with a chip 68060rc50, what is it ??(speed)
When I try to start the a4000 with it, the 4000 didn't bring me to the amiga logo screen, does it means that's a defect card ??
Thank you verymuch for all the antwort.

[adolescent]

The 68060 on your Cyberstorm Mk2 is 50Mhz.  Which is fast enough for most tasks.  

Check the jumpers (J101 and J104 both set to Ext I believe) on the A4000 motherboard to make sure they are set correctly for the Cyberstorm.  

[Framiga]

Hi lolof

you are lucky :-)

CyberStorms cards, are the best accellerator cards ever made.

First of all, you need a HD (IDE) and an Operating System.

Where do you live?

IIRC, an user here "redrumloa", has OS 3.5 new on stock.

Ciao and Wellcome :-)

[lolof]

I live in germany.
I found a set of 3 floppy disk (pinball) and try to boot with the first disk.
It doesn't work, I am afraid thatt the floppy is out !!
I dont believe that's a amiga one because there is a sort of (interface) device in the connector and I have to plug the cable in this device. my friend that give me the computer says that it can have compatibility problèm.
Where can I find a floppy for a decent price ??
and of course I want a sytem.
Thank you

[Brian]

Sound like you've got yourself a nice system though since you have a turboboard with 68060 CPU you'll run into a few problems just now in the beginning. But before I go into that what ROM does you have? If what you say is correct (a hand with a blue disk) then you have old 1.3ROM's in the machine not 3.0 or 3.1 as it's designed for.

Ok that said here comes some explanasions I hope can help you some:

Since few games work with the 060 CPU it's safe to say that you'll have your work cut out trying to run a game from floppy. There are however software that will allow to run the games from harddrive so don't worry about that yet.

You'll first have to get hold of a harddrive... Settle for no more than 4Gb just yet (original OS3.0/3.1 won't support more unless you pach it and run a different filesystem and that's another chapter that we're going to jump over for now).

Because you have a 060 CPU you can't even install OS3.0/3.1 from the original OS disks as they lack the 060.library... as a result they will fail. Get a friend to make a copy of the install disk and have him add the extra libs onto it (060 and 040 dummy libs).

Now the install disk will work and after partisioning and installing the OS you'll still have to manually copy in the extra 060 and 040 dummy libs to LIBS: .

[TjLaZer]

First off, The Amiga 4000 can not use Kickstarts 1.3 or 2.x, as someone suggested,  Only 3.0/3.1 will work.  No need to upgrade at this point, unless you want OS 3.9. But first things first...

Second, you will need to get a IDE Hard Drive.  I would get a 20GB if you can but nothing larger.  You will only be able to use up to 4GB for now, until you get up and running and then you can install patches, or the updated OS 3.9, to use the whole 20GB.

Thirdly, you will need a set of working AmigaDOS 3.0/3.1 install disks.  And assuming your floppy drive works, you will be able to install the OS on the HD.  If your floppy drive is TU (Tango Uniform, ie dead) you will need to get a replacement Amiga floppy drive!  A PC one will not work without special mods.  A replecement 4000 HD drive will cost you some cash!  For some reason they are great investment items these days! lol  If you can find a older Amiga 880k drive, that will do.

As far as the Cyberstorm MKII card, you will need to have a working setup then install the Phase 5 libs, then set the jumpers on the MB, (INT/EXT not sure which ones, try the opposite of what it's at now) then you can install the card.  It sounds like you have a Rev D MB, as you have a built in CPU; a MC68030.  (From your comments of 4000 working without CSMKII installed, and hand holding a disk)

Good luck,

[lolof]

Thank you.
I foun a set amiga os3.1 on ebay (7Euro).
Now, I will look for a floppy.
But I have made a mistake or bad explain, I have a rev.b MB.
I have 2 cpu card, the original one and the MK II.
Now , I have seen that the oscillator on the MK II is missing. Before I buy a new one, I want to try if the computer works with the original CPU.
I have found the switch are :

CLK 90 Clock Source J100 1-2 Internal (020/030)
                         2-3 External (040)
CPU Clock Source J104 1-2 Internal
                      2-3 External

How should I set them up for the original cpu card ?

Thanks