Ditch OS3.9?

[neofree]

blobrana: dont get your last post.. oh well.. i agree os3.1 is faster, but i wanna try and get ks3.1 into fast ram..


Does anyone out there know how to get my fast memory turned on when booting without Startup-Sequence?

Neofree

[iamaboringperson]

my question is this..
why are you using a 3.1 ROM image in the first place?
if you dont own the original ROM, you cant legaly use 3.1!

my suggestion is this:    use 3.0 until you can afford 3.1 ROMs, then use 3.5/3.9

DONT pirate AmigaOS!!!!!!

you certainly wont be helping the amiga community, if you have any interest in doing that

[neofree]

I own everything except KS3.1 ROM chips.  I have KS3.1 from AmigaForever CD.

That aside, I would like to have fastmem when booting without startup-sequence for other reasons.  I've tried to run games that require 8 meg of FAST that wont work this way because it thinks i have no fast mem at all.

Again, my only problem now is No FastMem when booting without Startup-Sequence...

Neofree

[blobrana]

Sry, last post was @Ryu...

Skick doesn`t use fastram....

Please get the proper rom chips....well worth the saving up and the wait...

[neofree]

Yes, SKick will use Fastmemory.. if the fast memory is available.  but my fastmem is not available until I boot into WB.  I dont understand why and SKick is not the only reason I want to know how to fix this.

Neofree

[blobrana]

OK,
That is good. And i assume that you can see the 8Mb on the top bar and that it`s physically seated correctly in the socket.
As a guess ,run a memtest (aminet)  just to be sure...

It must be the location of the SKick entry in the startup-sequence... move it just above the IPrefs command. see if that helps...
remember certain programs (sry, if you know this) only use chip mem...

Can the speed of the ram (80ns) have anything to do with it...

[machinehead]

BlitzKick on http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/~aminet/will kick just about all of your stuff into fastram.
Please try this and let us know how it works!!! :idea:

[neofree]

BlitzKick?  I can't find anything by that name on Aminet.

I do know of BlizKick, but it requires a Blizzard accellerator...

I think I will just try moving the SKick line down further in Startup-Sequence and see if that works.

Neofree

[machinehead]

Sorry, I ment( fblit ). Got me signals crossed I did.
Sometimes I forget which app does what.
Yes, fblit is what you want.

[neofree]

Isn't fblit for speeding up graphics?  Not that it wouldn't help, but I'm trying to get Kickstart into fastram...?

[BouncingAyatollah]

I think some memory is not added to the memory list util late on in the boot, depending on your card. When I used to use RemApollo for instance there was a hack called FakeLocal that would enable fast memory as "local" memory very early on.

Apart from that OS3.9 uses a LOT of chipRAM compared to 3.1, so you are best advised to use FBlit so that programs and icons etc. use fast memory. But PLEASE read the docs with regard to the special section about OS3.9, rather than coming back saying "Hey! I installed FBlit and now I get gfx corruption and it crashes after a while". Right now on my A1200 with 640x400+ screenmode in 64 cols with WB backdrop, Genesis and AmiDock running I have 1.377Mb free chip which is pretty good going for 3.9

I happen to disagree about going back to 3.1 though, I wouldn't once you get used to AsyncWb, rawWbinfo, defIcons, AmiDock, UnArc and so on and so on being there.

[tonyw]

Why not check to see if your fast RAM is there at boot time, or whether it doesn't appear until the GVP driver runs?

After booting with no startup-sequence, type "avail" and look at the memory it lists. Is your fast RAM there? Or only the chip RAM?

tony

[Ryu]

Yep I think its his GVP thats letting the side down. neo, if you like the amiga as a hobby I think your going to have to spend a few $$$ on it :-) ebay often get quite a bit of stuff on cheap, like i say most 030 cards for the A1200 only fetch around £30 here in the UK on the secondhand market. Anyhow its 2:30 in the morning and im going to bed, night night :-)

[blobrana]

@neofree
it wont move the kick start, but will save some chip that is used by a few programs

@machinehead

add this to your startup-sequence to fix the corruption...
C:LoadWB SIMPLEGELS

http://mysite.freeserve.com/blobrana/woa/intro.html

[nyteschayde]

I don't know why nobody can give you an answer on this. There are a few questions that need answering first. If all the fast ram on your machine is accessed through your accelerator card then what you must do is look through your Startup-Sequence  for any initialization software for your accelerator. Chances are that when you are calling SKick there isn't any fastmem available. The command that adds that memory to your memory pool called later.

You should initialize the hardware that contains your fastmem and then immediately call your SKick routine. It wouldn't hurt to setup your Startup-Sequence to check for the OS version and launch the appropriate routines if you are running OS3.0 and the boot normally if the OS version is 3.1. I have a setup like this on my Amiga3000 because OS3.9 crashes when I use my 040 accelerator. So my startup sequence launches, detects the cpu type, swaps to the on board 030 and then reboots. On the second boot the machine skips the cpu swapping software and moves on to boot OS3.9.

Perhaps you can mail me your Startup-Sequence and User-Startup files from your S: directory and I can help you out. My email is nyteschayde@yahoo.com.

Good luck

[neofree]

Well it seems things are a little different then I originally thought...

Last night I booted with no Startup-Sequence and typed Avail and it actually reported my 8 megs of Fast Memory.

What is strange is that whenever I run SKick with the "Fast" parameter (to use only fast mem), it says it is unable to find a location to relocate the rom into.  Also, if I run the demo "Relic", it also fails saying I do not have enough Fast Memory.

Well, I boot to a WB3.0 floppy, and try to run SKick from Shell, it says the same exact thing, but when I run Relic, it boots up and works fine.

I tried moving my SKick line down to right before IPrefs as someone suggested, and this had no effect.

I may have to use FBlit to make my system run better, assuming that it is able to find my fast memory.

Any ideas?  Has anyone been able to use Fast Mem with SKick?

Thanks,

Neofree