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WANTED: SCSI Kit for Blizzard 1230/IV
« on: July 17, 2004, 07:23:06 PM »
I'm looking for a SCSI Kit for my Blizz

Does anyone have one that wants to sell?  :-)
 

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Re: WANTED: SCSI Kit for Blizzard 1230/IV
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2004, 08:38:37 PM »
I think Software Hut still has some if you don't mind overseas shipping and customs, etc.
 

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Re: WANTED: SCSI Kit for Blizzard 1230/IV
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2004, 09:42:24 PM »
@EnyGmaTiK:

GGS-Data in Sweden also has them in stock. As Sweden also is a member of EU there wont be any customs fee or such.


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Re: WANTED: SCSI Kit for Blizzard 1230/IV
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2004, 11:08:48 PM »
Thanks. But i as hoping to get one cheaper, since i got my blizzard for 50eur, i'm not welling to get the kit for 120/150eur that those stores are asking  :-P
 

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Re: WANTED: SCSI Kit for Blizzard 1230/IV
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2004, 11:14:57 PM »
@EnyGmaTiK:

Aah, I can understand that :).


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Re: WANTED: SCSI Kit for Blizzard 1230/IV
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2004, 12:54:06 AM »
Remember to get the v8.5 SCSI-IV board revision!

This improved reliability and some minor problems with CD burning etc.

Also, I can't stress enough the importance of maintaining a good SCSI
chain. Correct termination, good quality shielded cables, short cable
length etc.

You might also want to add FPM memory instead of EDO to aid stability,
and uprate your power supply to an AT or ATX PC supply modified for
Amiga.

My SCSI-IV vost £85 UKP, you will be very lucky to get the v8.5 2nd
hand, especially below £50 UKP!

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Re: WANTED: SCSI Kit for Blizzard 1230/IV
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2004, 03:12:28 AM »
Thanks for the tip, i will keep an eye on it...

I would like to upgrade my PS too, but i don't seem to found a *good* tutorial about this subject. I sucessfully modified an ATX PC PS but i have to connect it directly in the MB. But i want to be able to connect the PS just like i connected today throught the normal cable of the miggy.
 

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Re: WANTED: SCSI Kit for Blizzard 1230/IV
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2004, 11:40:03 AM »
Theres one here on eBay Australia, and they ship worldwide.


Edit...oops, just noticed that you seem to be the current bidder, sorry :oops:
 

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Re: WANTED: SCSI Kit for Blizzard 1230/IV
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2004, 02:23:29 PM »
Is I am indeed  :-D .

Let's see if I win... my only preocupation is the ' not tested sold as is ' Since whenever i buy stuff this way they are broken...
 

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Re: WANTED: SCSI Kit for Blizzard 1230/IV
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2004, 02:32:21 PM »
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Hyperspeed wrote:
Remember to get the v8.5 SCSI-IV board revision!


I've asked the seller on e-bay which is selling his kit what revision was the board. He askered me that the only thing that he could see on the board is this:

EWK-X30 94V-0

What revision is this?  :-?
 

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Re: WANTED: SCSI Kit for Blizzard 1230/IV
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2004, 03:02:40 PM »
Ahhh, so YOU'RE outbidding me...!

Software Hut have them on their site, but they are out of stock.  These things are like rocking horse s**t at the moment (English expression meaning impossible to find).
I don't want it for the scsi aspect, just for the ram upgrade aspect.  È
A1200 Power Tower, Blizzard 1260 66 +32MB, OS3.9, 2.5\\" HD, IDEfix97 + DVD-RW + Zip, SD/FF + 15\\" CRT, Ioblix1200P + scanner, PCMCIA LAN + router
 

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Re: WANTED: SCSI Kit for Blizzard 1230/IV
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2004, 06:19:35 PM »
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Ahhh, so YOU'RE outbidding me...!

Software Hut have them on their site, but they are out of stock.  These things are like rocking horse s**t at the moment (English expression meaning impossible to find).
I don't want it for the scsi aspect, just for the ram upgrade aspect.  È


LOL... though competition!  :-)
 

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Re: WANTED: SCSI Kit for Blizzard 1230/IV
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2004, 12:15:58 AM »
Hi there,
   Well I'm not sure of all the ways to see the board revision but I
know if you load up SysInfo and select the devices<- toggle then it
should list 1230scsi.device v8.5.

There may other ways, particularly through shell but I know SysInfo
(the old one made in Australia) that does it.

With regards to using the SCSI-IV for extra RAM bare in mind the
following:

1) The space inside the A1200 desktop is very limited so you will need
single sided SIMMs that are non-composite (i.e. compact 8x DRAM SIMMs)
and not much taller, fatter or longer than the 8x DRAMs i.e no useless
silicon leftovers either side - the SIMM needs to be compact and
no-nonsense.

2) Double sided SIMMs will not physically fit on either the
accelerator or SCSI-IV (the SCSI-IV has a capacitor in the way, at
least on the DCE version)

3) The SCSI-IV will slow both SIMMs down to 70ns if there is a SIMM on
the SCSI-IV. You can, strangely enough, install a SIMM on the SCSI-IV
without one being on the main accelerator

4) Consider some sort of fan as it'll get very hot and cramped in
there, however the SIMMs should never physically touch the trapdoor
plastic (the SCSI-IV SIMM will probably touch the floppy drive a
little however)

5) Pick FPM memory (Fast Page Mode) and not EDO or nibble mode memory.
You don't want laser printer memory either, or Compaq SIMMs of any
description. Try to avoid composite SIMMs or those with unknown
components on (a lot can be designed for servers and may fry your
SCSI-IV)

6) If you do decide to go the most reliable route and pick up FPM
memory you will probably be limited to a total of 128mb and not 256mb.
Some sites say you can have 192mb or even 256mb on the 1260 but I
can't see how this is physically possible (capacitors on the newer 8.5
DCE SCSI-IV and also limitations of the desktop A1200).

7) Try to get non-parity SIMMs as the SCSI-IV can't utilise error
correction technology so you'll just have 4x more useless chips in
there. 128mb SIMMs do come in non-parity varieties but will almost
always be double-sided.

8) 64mb SIMMs seem to be very rare in FPM form, especially in the
single-sided, non-parity form. Be careful with 64mb SIMMs as they can
be sampler memory, laser printer memory and occasionally EDO. None of
which can guarantee reliable performance with the SCSI-IV.
Particularly with the 1260.

9) Make sure your SCSI-IV has the steel housing attached to the end of
it's 25-pin female cable so that you can secure the socket to the
retainer screw on the rear expansion slot. My v8.5 DCE SCSI-IV didn't
have this metal box and so just dangles precariously out the back like
a lizard's tongue!

:-D
 

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Re: WANTED: SCSI Kit for Blizzard 1230/IV
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2004, 12:39:13 PM »
About the SIMM, i'm currently using one 16mb EDO SIMM, and i got no problem whatsoever... this problems come in which form?
 

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Re: WANTED: SCSI Kit for Blizzard 1230/IV
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2004, 02:13:00 AM »
A lot of people will get away with EDO with no trouble, and I'm sure I
irritate a lot by saying FPM is the best way to go.

However, I have come across 3x websites that say EDO is to be avoided
and did some research into EDO on other platforms.

Some Apple Macs have been fried by EDO (the really older Quadras I
think) and a lot don't work at all. Phase 5 say you can use EDO but
their manuals were written back in '94?. EDO had evolved
over the years after the Blizzards came out.

The PowerPC boards should be fine as they allow you to utilise an
`early ESC menu' on bootup to switch on/off the pre-charges. This
should alleviate problems with cheaper memory (which is invariably the
mass produced EDO).

Problems occur particularly when in use with the SCSI-IV kit, random
crashing, locking and phase changes. I used to get my machine locking
a lot with EDO and now it doesn't do it with FPM.

EDO may be totally compatible in most instances, but FPM will always
be totally accepted by all older 68k machines and so I'd take it as
the lowest common denominator. Amigas can't use the speed increase of
EDO anyway, your only advantage is that EDO is cheaper and more
plentiful. EDO is also usually thinner in size, but do you want to
sacrifice reliability (or at least the potential for unreliability) to
save a few bucks?

:-)