Extreme Amiga overclocking.

[BoingBoss]

Hi Eco,

Made in Germany: How exactly does this make the product better? Zero argumentative value.

As all smart people know, the countries that produce the highest quality stuff in the world are England, Germany, and Japan.

"argumentive"?!  I am not arguing, I am just stating facts.   :-)

[BoingBoss]

Hi Brian,

I will no longer waste any more of my time on you.  I will only waste my time on people who are wise enough to listen and who are not argumentative.   :roll:

[Eco]

BoingBoss wrote:

As all smart people know

Oh please. I ask about specifics and you keep hammering the thread with THAT  :-o

[PMC]

[Brian]

Ow please Doomy... argue for your case if that's what gets it for you but bring real facts not baised bs statements that can so easily be questioned and/or proven wrong.

I will only waste my time on people who are wise enough to listen and who are not argumentative.

I see you surtantly live by that. :roll:

[patrik]

@BoingBoss:

For the AmigaOS to see the memory installed on the PPS Progressive 2000/040 card, you both have to set the jumpers correctly plus have the software from the PPS040 Install-Disk installed.

There is some info about this card on this page.

If you get the 32-bit memory working you should experience a big performance-boost compared to when using only 16-bit ZorroII-memory.

Good luck!


/Patrik

[adolescent]

BoingBoss wrote:
Hi adolescent,

Again with incorrect facts.

No, I am correct.  You yourself even stated that the "MC" version was the one with the lower voltage.

Not all of the 3.3 volt chips had a "v" at the end.  MANY of them were misprinted and sold to companies like Progressive and GVP at a lower cost.

No, you are not correct (again).  MC and XC have nothing to do with the chip voltage, period.  I have a MC68040@40Mhz that is a 5V chip.  All 3.3V 040s have the V designation.  There is no way that GVP and Progressive used the 3.3V chips.  They are not pin compatible, and are not interchangable.  Plugging a 3.3V chip into a 5V socket would no doubt result in a puff of smoke and an unusable computer.

[Brian]

@adolescent

Doomy's wild storys continue... of cause as common sence will tell a 3.3V chip getting 5V would result in failure but not in Doomys world.

[adolescent]

Brian wrote:
@adolescent
The MC68040V have FPU and MMU, the MC68EC040V doesn't.

No, the MC68040V is a low voltage version of the MC68LC040, therefore lacks the FPU like the MC68LC040.  From the user guide (sorry to jump around, but the guide is in a different order.)

APPENDIX C MC68040V AND MC68EC040V

For the MC68040V, all differences that exist between the MC68LC040 and the MC68040, as described in Appendix A MC68LC040, also apply to the MC68040V.

APPENDIX A MC68LC040

A.1 MC68LC040 DIFFERENCES
...
The MC68LC040 does not contain an FPU, which causes unimplemented floating-point exceptions to occur using a new eight-word stack frame format.

[Brian]

You are correct and I was just to post the findings I got from motorola.com... I was simply missled by TBBoAH processor information. :oops:

[Cyberus]

BoingBoss wrote:

As all smart people know, the countries that produce the highest quality stuff in the world are England, Germany, and Japan.

Yeah, step over the border into Wales and the standards plummet...;-)

[adolescent]

@Brian

No problem.  I noticed they said it's 100% compatible there, whereas Motorola also say it's not pin compatible.

[AmiGR]

Dunno about the 2000 but on the 1200, some accelerator boards (like the Apollo) run *MORE* reliable at 28MHz, due
to better synchronization with the system bus, the CPU does
not have to wait all the time.

[AmiGR]

My 68040 is an MC68040 one and it is the *5*Volt version:-)

[AmiGR]

The *LOWER* quality SMT!? Doomy... Get the f*ck outta here...

[melott]

I'm sorry to be so rude as to interupt this semi-interesting
discussion about the 040 chip  :-D

But has anyone tried over-clocking the MoBo on any Amiga?
Not just the processor, but the whole MoBo.

I'm curious (also ignorant of such things).