Amiga vs Atari - was there any real competition?

[TjLaZer]

I also own both Atari and Amigas.  I own a Falcon030 and TT030 as well as 520ST, 1040 and Mega STs.  They are not bad machines, but the Amiga is flat out better.  Smoother graphics, better sound, and better quality software when it was not ported over.  But since I owned both platforms I love them both. lol

[HopperJF]

Atari is a much more limiting, and cult machine which makes it more exciting to use in my  opinion, and more rewarding when some new software is found.

These factors give me more pleasure when using an ST computer than an Amiga. I also feel that ST computers are better built.  :-)

[Brian]

In the bitter battle, when the A1200 was still fresh, I had the oppertunity to see an Atari in action. Not sure what the "war" was about except for the fact that all Amigans I knew though Atari was evil and it had a big inpact on me for this machine that I didn't know. Anyway I thought I would take a look at this devils machine and although I only got an hour of tinkering it was enough for me to go home happy knowing my A1200 was waiting for me.

I belive that "the two sides" have never stood so close as they do these days though. I guess we're both in the same kind of boat... althoug "they've" given in while "we're" still franticly scooping out water hoping to reach land soon.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

that_punk_guy wrote:
Although on the other hand some Amiga users seem to use Microsoft's incompetence as an excuse to remain completely ignorant of how Windows works, never to bother learning how to set it up properly, install bad software badly, and blame Bill Gates when it f**ks up.

Actually, I know quite how it works. And I was a convinced DOS user, until I discovered the Amiga.
I still need an Atari Falcon to make a good comparison between the AGA Amiga's (still need an A4000) and the Atari Falcon.
Fact is, beseen as gameconsoles, the Atari Jaguar is way much faster than the CD32 (yup, I got both, an Atari Jaguar + cd unit and a CD32).
And I need an STE, wich actually has a blitter and stereo sound, to compare it with the Amiga500.
Anyhoo, how good the Falcon might have been with it's DSP, it did not have hardware multitasking (it had software preemptive multitasking with MultiTOS if I'm correct).

And can anyone delete the utterly misleading term "cooperative multitasking" out of the computer dictionary? The term, wich M$ and Mac used as selling argument? Multitasking my *ss :-x

[davey]

Hyperspeed wrote:

Amiga is a better `open source' community than Linux ever will be.

Speaking as an amiga lover, that is boll0x.

A number of open-source amiga projects started out on linux and got ported. Open Source isn't about an OS anyway, it is bigger than that, linux is just a home for opensource which began before linux existed.

They gave us uae for starters, dvd burning software, apache webserver, mysql, php & samba which all run on many operating systems. A number of nice applications started on the amiga but how many were open-source ones that none-amiga users will know about?

When I get my latest UAE, based on linux, I will start to contribute too if i can.

Please don't come into an open forum and spout such nonsense, it is embarrassing and shameful.

Back on-topic, I had my amiga since workbench 1.3 came out and fell in love with it bigtime when I got workbench 3.0 (I missed out on v2 but used it enough to know it was special). I borrowed money and persuaded my brother to sell his A500 to buy an A1200 between us. The following year I worked 7days a week in the summer holidays to buy an 80mb HD for about £170 and my love-affair with the amiga & computing generally went into overdrive.

My A1200T with ppc awaits proof that OS 4 will come out for it and then I will SERIOUSLY consider an upgrade. In the meantime I want my core work tools to get ported. This includes firefox browser I live in hope.

[TheMagicM]

Its kinda cool to see that there are still people out there using these cool machines.. Amiga or Atari.  I've never used a Atari, nor known anyone that had one..would be cool to see though.   Does the Atari have any games that are "Atari only" that are cool?  Like Shadow of the Beast, SWOS or something?  Does TOS multitask like Workbench?

[BIG-IRON]

NO next question.

[pVC]

There wasn't any competition between Amiga and Atari where I lived at that time. Almost everyone had Amiga and some had PC or C64. I have seen ST and Falcon only once and that was only quite recently. So, in our part of the world Amiga ruled and Atari was unknown.

[Amigaz]

Agree, same here in the Stockholm area when I was a youngster.
Never heard of a person who owned an Atari 520/1040 just saw some being sold in papers that's all I saw of them.
My guess is that maybe 1 out of 15-20 people had an Atari the rest had Amiga's.
I'm talking about the period before the AGA machines came out when I had my Amiga which I sold in '93 and now I'm back since 2 years!  :lol:

[Macca]

Yeah the ST has many games - mostly the same catalogue as the Amiga.

I've just recently got a 4MB STE and there are a few games that don't work on it (much like Kickstart 3.1 to 1.3)

The ST in my opinion is much better made - it's a solid machine and even after 10 or so years age it's floppy drive is still working fine.

Also it's much easier to copy games for the ST from the images (.ST and .MSA) by using Makedisk - boot do DOS run that with the appropriate Command Line switches and job done - no need for slow serial cables, etc.


Macca.

[HopperJF]

The ST will read DOS formatted disks as well - meaning that you can download software straight from the net, unzip it and put it on a disk.

A lot easier than it is to do on the Amiga.

[HE-MAN]

Is there any game that was releast on Amiga and Atari, that the Atari version were better?

[mikeymike]

Amiga vs Atari - was there any real competition?

Put me down for a "who cares?" and a "not this old chestnut again" vote :-)

[HopperJF]

The Lotus Turbo games were more playable on the ST.
Most earlier games are better on the ST, because the Amiga versions were only ported from the ST versions.

[Amiga1200PPC]

Come on Hopper, don't talk bs.
Everybody knows that Ataris are crap :lol:

[BigBenAussie]

I remember being pissed off when my favourite game "International Karate" was only ported to the ST. I'm not talking about IK+, but the original game. They even fought outside Buckingham Pallace. Never got to play the game. Hmmm. Methinks I should dig up an ST emulator and see if I can get a hold of it.