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Offline HyperionMP

0S4 development on track
« on: January 28, 2003, 09:27:30 AM »
This is not really newsworthy but I can assure all of you that OS 4 development is proceeding nicely.

Nearly all of the functionality described in the feature-list has now been implemented.

A team of 60+ people has been beta-testing and localising since quite some time and the number of outstanding bugs in Bugzilla has been going down steadily.

It's however very hard to estimate exactly when OS 4 will hit end-users because we are committed to delivering a bug-free product but the idea that it won't be ready before the end of the year is completely off the mark.

The worst (in development terms) is now behind us.
 

Offline Bodie

Re: 0S4 development on track
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2003, 09:31:53 AM »
I think the majority of us never doubted it  ;-) . Still it was quite a scare  :nervous: .


Cheers :pint:  :pint:  :pint:  :pint:  :pint:  :pint:  :pint:
 

Offline Ami603

Re: 0S4 development on track
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2003, 09:47:47 AM »
So all the people out there are calmed now.
it worked!.:-D
AmigaOne X1000
 

Offline Senex

Re: 0S4 development on track
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2003, 09:48:59 AM »
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HyperionMP wrote:
Nearly all of the functionality described in the feature-list has now been implemented.


Including the implementation of the 68k-emu, i.e. everything is running already on PPC-only?
 

Offline HyperionMP

Re: 0S4 development on track
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2003, 09:51:09 AM »
Well, you should know, you're a betatester ...
 

Offline DaveP

Re: 0S4 development on track
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2003, 09:55:49 AM »
@HyperionMP

No doubt there will be a lot of flame mail after this from those
that do not want this to be true, the same cast that wanted
the "Yoris" comment to be true - in the same way that there
are those that did not want the "Yoris" statement to be true
but it is appreciated that you posted this comment on here ( and
for chosing Amiga.org to make the statement ) and I hope you
don't get put off by the ensuing debacle.

Hate figure. :lol:
 

Offline Ami603

Re: 0S4 development on track
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2003, 09:56:55 AM »
Yes,I know,but how can i stop a thread like this without breaking NDA?
better trying to calm down without opening things to the
masses :-D
BTW,also is too hard to maintain,when you know such info,
and all the people whining.
AmigaOne X1000
 

Offline Senex

Re: 0S4 development on track
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2003, 09:58:32 AM »
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HyperionMP wrote:
Well, you should know, you're a betatester...


Well, if you want me to become one for OS4 as well, I gladly will. :-)
 

Offline xeron

Re: 0S4 development on track
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2003, 10:05:24 AM »
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Senex wrote:
Well, if you want me to become one for OS4 as well, I gladly will. :-)


And when my AmigaONE arrives, i'll gladly sign an NDA and test it, too  :-D
Playstation Network ID: xeron6
 

Offline jd997uk

Re: 0S4 development on track
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2003, 10:10:47 AM »
@Bodie
It's sad that Hyperion have to prove/justify and also have to waste time countering against this kind of 'FUD'.
Even though Ben has bothered wasting time to do so, IMHO it's a futile exercise.
There will still be posts from 'certain' people who apparantly know more about the progress of OS4 than Hyperion do themselves, giving out about Ben being a liar, etc, etc.
I don't profess to know any more than the average person here, however from postings I've had with a few contributors to the project, I've gotten the impression it's a lot closer to being done than 'certain' people would like you to believe.
There will be calls for Hyperion to show something, but since no company in their right sense shows an incomplete OS to the public (with the exception of M$ with Win95 ;~), there's no need at this time for any alarm.
If we hear _nothing at all_ for 6 months call me back.

Until then "Don't Panic Mr Mannering"***

-john


***Quote from Old TV series 'Dads Army'
Don\\\'t panic - bite the towel.
 

Offline Nick

Re: 0S4 development on track
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2003, 10:26:00 AM »
Thankyou so much HyperionMP. Glad to hear you calming things down. Somepeople seem to get all psycho and make them selves believe rumours that sound stupid, and are stupid.
 

Offline Bodie

Re: 0S4 development on track
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2003, 10:37:40 AM »
@jd997uk

I totally agree with you :-) ! It was, however, good to see Hyperion come out almost immediately to quash this blatantly false rumour. However,  I also agree with you  that no matter what Hyperion will state, others will come out and claim that Hyperion blah blah won't relase blah due to blah (you get the idea).

Cheers mate.
 

Offline JoannaK

Re: 0S4 development on track
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2003, 10:55:49 AM »
Ok. Few obvious questions cause your answer is 'in shedure and rocking' and I have learned to suspect anyone giving those:

A) Does it boot up to WorkBenck on PPC only .. (like CSPPC)?

B) Is that mentinoed 68k Intergation finished?

C) Can OS4 be demoed on Cebit?

D)  ... running on Amigaone?

E) ... and using well known 68k apps?


I could comment about the worst part of development.. It's when during debugging you suddenly realize that all parts don't fit together as earlier was expected and some major parts of system goes to total rewriting. Are you surely pass that point that you know it'll all fits together and will work as expected?
 

Offline Seehund

Re: 0S4 development on track
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2003, 11:23:05 AM »
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HyperionMP wrote:
This is not really newsworthy but I can assure all of you that OS 4 development is proceeding nicely.


That's good to hear, thanks!
(If you had phrased it "on schedule and rocking" we would have cocked our guns. ;) )

But I guess you posted this in response to the much discussed post by Ben Yoris on amigaimpact.com, which never questioned that development was proceeding.

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Nearly all of the functionality described in the feature-list has now been implemented.

A team of 60+ people has been beta-testing [...]


Could you clarify a bit on this please? If all functionality hasn't been implemented, the OS can't be in beta-testing by definition. Are you talking about beta-testing of separate parts and modules?

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It's however very hard to estimate exactly when OS 4 will hit end-users because we are committed to delivering a bug-free product but the idea that it won't be ready before the end of the year is completely off the mark.


So "when it's ready" has been narrowed down to "in 2003" then.

Since it looks like Yoris' post was originally in response to someone mentioning "March 2003", could you please clarify what this announcement was supposed to mean exactly. I'm referring to this part:

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The first of these shows will be the official launch of the AmigaOne and AmigaOS4.0, to occur at the CeBit show in Germany in March (and before anyone asks, this does not mean this is the release date for AmigaOS4.0, it means that CeBit will be the public launch of it).


I wonder what the difference between "release" and "launch" is supposed to be. It's easy to see why this has caused confusion. If "launch" is not the same as "release", then what does it mean? "Announcing to the rest of the world that the AmigaOS4 project is in development", or what?
[color=0000FF]Maybe it\\\'s still possible to [/color]save AmigaOS [color=0000FF][/size][/color]  :rtfm:......
 

Offline DaveP

Re: 0S4 development on track
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2003, 11:24:38 AM »
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I could comment about the worst part of development.. It's when during debugging you suddenly realize that all parts don't fit together as earlier was expected and some major parts of system goes to total rewriting. Are you surely pass that point that you know it'll all fits together and will work as expected?


I see you claiming an awful lot in recent times, exactly what
are your credentials here?
Hate figure. :lol: