FX5200DT Drivers problem (nVidia/Abit)

[Vincent]

SOLVED! :-D

Something so stupidly simple...

The motherboard CD didn't install the AGP drivers automatically along with everything else.  They seem to be tacked on to the end of the cd with no way to get them from the main installation/menu.

Installed, rebooted, "Found new hardware" :-D

The wierd thing is, I don't remember having to install the AGP drivers a few months ago when we got the mobo and gfx card.

@blob

I've installed 45.23 at the moment (it was the quickest I could find), I'll install 56.72 and DX9.0 tomorrow (DXwebsetup doesn't want to work just now and I'm going out again tonight)

@mikey and Ilwrath

Cheers anyways :-D  Guess this means I don't have to write down the menu system for my bios now :-D

/me thankfully wipes brow :-D

The annoying thing is I won't have time to play HL:DoD until tomorrow now :-( but at least I'll be able to play it :-D

[Vincent]

blobrana wrote:
Hum,
it`s maybe the Motherboard CDROM  that he should be looking for...i`ve just thought.
It`ll have maybe a specific Abit PCI/AGP driver on it that will allow the graphic card to be recognised?
(as well as audio /lan etc)

:-D

Ilwrath wrote:
Don't force it like that. Let WinXP detect the hardware, when it pops the first prompt, there should be an option to pick in the search path that lets you type a directory. Pick this option, and type in (it won't let you browse)
C:\nvidia\win2kxp\56.72

Click "Next". It should sort itself, from there.

Interesting point: I was able to browse when it did find new hardware.  Up popped a 3.1esque dir-only requester.

Boy I've never been so glad to see smooth scrolling :-D

[mikeymike]

Cheers anyways Guess this means I don't have to write down the menu system for my bios now

You might want to anyway - there was an insanely obscure option which doubled OpenGL performance on my machine (though it is a quirk of my model motherboard I think).  I've a fair amount of experience in messing with BIOS options to improve performance, but up to you :-)

I haven't had the generic AGP drivers give me problems before, usually it is crap 3rd party AGP drivers that I've seen problems with, but I still usually try them out.

[Ilwrath]

@Vincent

Hah!  I should read more carefully!

My CD has went walkabout so I've downloaded drivers from nvidia and Abit

I just assumed that meant you had an Abit motherboard, and installed the motherboard AGP driver.  I never considered that you might have meant the Abit GeForce driver.  :-P  

Anyhow, congrats on getting it working.  :-)

[blobrana]

Hum,
So now you've done that...
You can tweak that old card...Check out the ` advanced ` tab in ` display settings `...disappointing huh?

Well add a super duper ` T in the park ` warp drive tab option with:
Clicking on the NVTweak folder with regedit, and create a new Dword value (you need to right click in window) name it CoolBits (make sure you use a big C and B ) one's created open it and make the value 3 (hex or decimal)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA corporation\Global\NVTweak

"CoolBits"=dword:00000003

It will work on with any detonator drivers, and make for a mean game of Quake...


[Disclaimer: i am a fragmaster]

[Vincent]

@blob

Is there anything you don't know about computers? :-)

I put in CoolBits but that didn't work, I'm assuming I'll need the ""s aswell?  I'lldo it after, HL beckons :-)

I'll need to ask you about Quake servers sometime :-D

@mikey

I'll get round to doing the bios menu and asking you later on about that, I need a bit of a break from piddling about in windows :-D

[odin]

Vincent wrote:

The annoying thing is I won't have time to play HL:DoD until tomorrow now :-( but at least I'll be able to play it :-D

So, young grasshopper, have you mastered the mysteries of NS yet? ;-)

Or is it still crashing and crashing.

[Calen]

lo Vince, ltns

If your still having problems enabling Coolbits, you could try d/l RivaTuner from Guru3d.com, IIRC it may let you enable it with that program as well as tweak the living daylights outta that card.

Do be careful if you decide to use the overclocking option with CB, unlike the FX5900 i don't think the FX5200 has a threshold on Core temp.
Not much room to work with overclocking on that card anyway, best to be safe

If your still having problems coolbits related, you could have a look here

[Vincent]

@odin

Nope, it still crashes on here so I gave up.  I have absolutely no idea why it's crashing.  The bsod's give no information about the crash.

@calen

Got CoolBits working now, dunno why it didn't work the first time tho.  But I'll give the tweaking a break just now, I'm in a "if it ain't broke don't fix it" kinda mood :-D

[odin]

Shame. Luckily it should go Steam-native rather soon. I think I saw an announcement on planethalflife.com a few days ago. NS really is better than DoD ;-) (if you have a functional team that is).

[blobrana]

What!
 it didn`t work?  hum, did you not see a new `clock frequencies` option?
under the GeForce FX5200 tab (er, at the side panel?)
(aND Best to use the auto-detect option)

Try these:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\NVTweak]
"NvCplExposeWin2kDualView"=dword:00000001
"NvCplTvLocaleAutoDetect"=dword:00000001
"NvCplAllowForceTVDetection"=dword:00000001
"NvCplEnableActiveApp"=dword:00000001
"DisableApplyColorsAtStartup"=dword:00000000
"NoMenus"=dword:00000000
"OverlayPageState"=dword:00000000
"CinematicPageState"=dword:000000ff
"NvCplThermalSettings"=dword:00000020
"NvCplEnableAppProfilePage"=dword:00000000
"NvCplEnableScreenMenuPage"=dword:00000001
"NvCplCustomResConfig"=dword:00000000
"NvCplEnableAdditionalInfoPage"=dword:00000001
"NvCplDisablePerfQualPage"=hex:00,00,00,00
"NvCplEnableAGPSettingsPage"=dword:00000001
"CoolBits"=dword:ffffffff
"NvCplEnableOverlaySpanControl"=dword:00000001
"TwinViewCapsOverride"=dword:00000001
"NvCplEnableDesktopOverlapPage"=dword:00000001
"NvCplEnableTroubleshootingPage"=dword:00000001
"NvCplDisableRefreshRatePage"=dword:00000000
"NvCplDisableRotateAngles"=dword:00000000
"NoPages"=dword:00000000
"NvCplEnableClearViewPage"=dword:00000001
"NvCplEnableFanControl"=dword:00000003
"NvCplEnableFrameSyncPage"=dword:00000001
"NvCplEnableHardwarePage"=dword:00000001
"NvCplEnablenForcePage"=dword:00000001
"NvCplEnablePwrMzrOnDesktopMenu"=dword:00000001
"NvCplEnableRotationColorSettings"=dword:00000001
"NvCplNvThermPage"=dword:00000001
"PowermizerPreferences"=dword:00000000
"QTwkEnableModeChangeWarning"=dword:00000001



[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\OpenGL\Debug]
"ShaderObjects"=dword:00000001


Whoops, missed the post saying you got it working...
(har-rah!)

[Vincent]

@odin

If it does go steam native I'll try it again and see what happens :-)

the all-knowing blobrana confessed:

Whoops, missed the post saying you got it working...
(har-rah!)

:lol:

Hope you only copied/pasted that post :-D

"CoolBits"=dword:ffffffff

How does that differ from the 00000003 value?  Well, I suppose what I mean is, how do both of those work if they're that far apart? (assuming that 00000003 is the same as 00000003 in hex)

[blobrana]

Hum,
Strangly they
 both work!
(though, i have always tried  00000003 in the past)
my clock core frequency is 250 Mhz
and my memory frequency is 403 Mhz

 :-)
(i havent tried all the `other` settings  - yet)

[mikeymike]

My Ti4200 is managing:

core: 300MHz
mem: 563MHz

Which is about a Ti4600 isn't it?  Jedi Academy seems a bit smoother when it gets to a busy moment.

I'll probably push the overclock further yet.

[blobrana]

Impressive



For an old card... just goes to show that there life in old hardware, huh... :-)

[odin]

...but not as we know it.