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I can't stand the flicker any more!
« on: January 27, 2003, 09:51:23 PM »
Uh, My monitor blew up last year and since then I've been using an old one that only does 60Hz refresh in 1024x786.  My eyes feel screwed at the end of each day, and I have decided to spend the little money I have on a decent monitor seeing as I spend around 7 hours a day at my PC for my degree.  Any advice on decent but cheep monitors would go down a treat.

How good are LCD monitors? I'm a bit of a jackass so my main reason not to go for one is that I expect them to be quite delicate, I mean if I nocked it over when I'm pissed I'll surly break it, wouldn't I?

Anybody know of any good deals on CRT monitors in the UK, that do at least 70Hz in a good resoloution?

My eyes ache and my brain feels funny.
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Re: I can't stand the flicker any more!
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2003, 10:21:25 PM »
Hi,

You don`t say wether you have an Amiga or a PC (or a MAC for that matter).

You also don`t state whether you wish to puchase via the internet or high street shop.

You might like to try these UK based internet shops, They have a good reputation and may have what you want.

EBuyer

Aria

Hope this helps.

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Re: I can't stand the flicker any more!
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2003, 10:24:11 PM »

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How good are LCD monitors? I'm a bit of a jackass so my main reason not to go for one is that I expect them to be quite delicate, I mean if I nocked it over when I'm pissed I'll surly break it, wouldn't I?


Depends how hard you hit it...
They seem OK as far as I see.

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Anybody know of any good deals on CRT monitors in the UK, that do at least 70Hz in a good resoloution?
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Try Dabs, they usually have a good selection at a resonable price.
Forget 70Hz  Go for 85Hz, it'll hurt (possibly quite badly) for the first few days but you'll be able to sit in front of the computer for hours and hours.


My eyes ache and my brain feels funny.

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Re: I can't stand the flicker any more!
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2003, 10:24:30 PM »
It's for my PC.  I'll check out those shops you stated, I usually buy from scan.co.uk or dabs.com, so I'll so I'll check yours out.
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Re: I can't stand the flicker any more!
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2003, 10:26:56 PM »
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Try Dabs, they usually have a good selection at a resonable price.
Forget 70Hz Go for 85Hz, it'll hurt (possibly quite badly) for the first few days but you'll be able to sit in front of the computer for hours and hours.


Hmm, you dont actually need anything over 70Hz, as your eyes only refresh at 70, anything over that is overkill.
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Re: I can't stand the flicker any more!
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2003, 10:27:28 PM »
Aren`t LCD monitors a little bit jerky when it comes to scrolling? (browser pages, games etc)

Are there any good LCD monitors out there just as good as the normal monitors from this point of view?
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Re: I can't stand the flicker any more!
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2003, 10:33:07 PM »
@ dragon

good point!
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Re: I can't stand the flicker any more!
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2003, 10:38:06 PM »
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Hmm, you dont actually need anything over 70Hz, as your eyes only refresh at 70, anything over that is overkill.


Tell that to my eyes,  If I go below 85Hz I'll notice the flicker and get sore eyes, I can get used to it but I'll not be able to sit in front of the monitor for so long.
Weirdly If I go up to 90Hz I get uncomfortable again, 85Hz seems to be the sweet spot for me at least.

One advantage of LCDs does seem to be you can sit in front of them for longer.

BTW I wasn't aware human eyes did refresh - you a cyborg or something :-P
 

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Re: I can't stand the flicker any more!
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2003, 10:39:01 PM »
My husband bought 2 Belinea monitors online HERE.

We were happy with their service and would use them again.
 

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Re: I can't stand the flicker any more!
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2003, 10:46:06 PM »
@ Edit-Chick

I tried the site but it seems to be unavailable, I will try agin later though.

@minator

Maybe its mind over matter or something :-D
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Re: I can't stand the flicker any more!
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2003, 10:49:27 PM »
This is the URL  http://www.monitors-online.co.uk/


Seems to be working our end ...

We're running Win2kpro & IE6..  I'll just check it with Opera
 

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Re: I can
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2003, 10:51:18 PM »
Look into TFT and plasma monitors. TFT is like LCD but better, and plasma is the best you get - and the most expensive.

There's no flicker at all on these monitors. Not even a little.
 

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Re: I can't stand the flicker any more!
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2003, 10:53:18 PM »
Works on Opera !!
 

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Re: I can
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2003, 10:56:52 PM »
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Look into TFT and plasma monitors. TFT is like LCD but better, and plasma is the best you get - and the most expensive.


TFT is LCD, but it has a transistor connected to each pixel that forces the crystals to change faster so you don't get the bluring which used to effect the old laptop LCDs (DSTN type)

Plasma is all well and good, but is very expensive and also chucks out the same sort of radiation that a CRT does, which can have an effect on the eyes.

I would say go for an LCD
 

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Re: I can
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2003, 11:15:21 PM »
My Iiyama S900MT1 is a 19" CRT monitor, which I use to do 1280x1024 @ 85Hz (it can do higher, but not at that refresh rate) , is a few years old now, and no degradation in image output.  It's a very nice monitor, and it is cheap.  I got mine for £180 from Dabs.

I've had very good experiences with Iiyama monitors and Iiyama tech support (when old monitors need maintenance), I whole-heartedly recommend them.

An example of the good support is with a 17" monitor that was out of guarantee.  Iiyama paid for P&P both ways and no cost for the maintenance to tweak the slightly scewed display.   Nice attitude as well.

The other thing I should mention is that refresh rates < 72Hz are very bad for your eyes and brain.