IBrowse 2.5 finally on its way?

[wawrzon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaJR_zsq3Ns

exactly.

[Thorham]

it wasnt nitpicking. do you think this approach is practical? or at least practicable?

Until someone writes a really well designed and well optimized browser for 68k (way, way beyond IBrowse), it's the best we've got.

exactly.

Ugly isn't the same as unusable.

[paul1981]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaJR_zsq3Ns

I'm surprised how slow your scrolling in iBrowse appears to be. I'm sure I've seen other A2000 setups which appear to be mega smooth with rtg card and 040/060. Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly? I do like your A2000 setup btw

[wawrzon]

Until someone writes a really well designed and well optimized browser for 68k (way, way beyond IBrowse), it's the best we've got.

none will do that. as you see even ibrowse autors struggle to implement any features needed to day. the solution is to use existing open engines with an amiga gui or let it be. im fine with either.

Ugly isn't the same as unusable.

i think i have spente enough time trying to figure out what ibrowse or aweb have rendered in front of me, to say it is not a question of aesthetics, but ergonomy. if the browser cannot display the page any close to what was intended by whoever has put it together, you might soon lose your way around it. but if you find it usable, so that you dont need to use a browser on your pc instead, then i can only applaud.

[Thorham]

none will do that.

Indeed. Everyone in the Amiga community keeps yelling that we need this, we need that, but almost no one does anything (including myself ).

as you see even ibrowse autors struggle to implement any features needed to day.

That may have several reasons, and we'll probably never know.

the solution is to use existing open engines with an amiga gui or let it be. im fine with either.

Which will just lead to bad performance on 68k. We've already seen that.

if you find it usable

It's useful when I need it (which isn't often).

so that you dont need to use a browser on your pc instead

I love using my peecee

[utri007]

Which will just lead to bad performance on 68k. We've already seen that.

Have you trie this?  http://cy2.uk/netsurfos3

Bad performance is relative, I highly doubt that there woun't be much faster browser than Chris' Netsurf already  is. Oldsmobile_Mike's video has some performance after 25min. Amiga.org renders about a 21 seconds. Newer version has much faster https browsin, than version on video. (wikipedia)

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I'm surprised how slow your scrolling in iBrowse appears to be. I'm sure I've seen other A2000 setups which appear to be mega smooth with rtg card and 040/060. Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly? I do like your A2000 setup btw

Eh.  I wasn't really making that as a performance demonstration, was just di**ing around one day.  

Am sure there's things I could to to improve that, for example running it on it's own screen instead of the Workbench, etc.  Might look into it one of these days.

[Thorham]

Have you trie this?  http://cy2.uk/netsurfos3

Sadly not, because it's 3.5+.

Amiga.org renders about a 21 seconds.

If that's on a 68060, then IBrowse 2.4 is a lot faster. It renders amiga.org in 20 seconds on a 50mhz 68030 (and it's usable).

[Jose]

Sorry guys but didn't they have a CSS engine almost ready a few years ago ? What happened ?
I love and would buy IBrowse too but without CSS I don't think it's worth it...

[slaapliedje]

They going to port it to FreeMiNT too?  (now that it also runs on the Amiga?)  

Okay, that's at least partly a joke, would love to see a decent browser on my Falcon, I've yet to get netsurf working, and it sounds like they're dropping support from the autobuild of it.

While I would gladly pay for an updated iBrowse, I think that out of all the types of software out there, browsers should always remain open source.  Mainly due to auditing purposes and so the users will feel a little safer that there isn't some code in there that is hijacking your login information and sending it to the authors.

[eliyahu]

@thread

the digression about building netsurf on 68K systems has been moved here.  please keep discussion in this thread on ibrowse 2.5.  thanks.

-- eliyahu